On the CD Player (Turntable) Today

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tiassa said:
The Killers - Hot Fuss: Disappointing in a way, almost a bait-and-switch. What opens as a mod-rock album tinged with goth-pop influences breaks down into far too much synth and artifice. By the time it starts sounding like a dance record .... Nonetheless, I'd prefer if radio pop sounded more like this than other things. Unfortunately, 'tis a dubious honor to be one of the better among suck bands.
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I just revisited this thread and stumbled onto this post. I hope you've got their new CD, "Sam's Town." It is brilliant. It could have been done 35 years ago in the Golden Age of Rock and Roll. From the vocals that sound like he learned to sing by listening to David Bowie, Bryan Ferry and Ian Hunter... to the ambitious musical styles that keep threatening to veer away from rock and roll entirely... to the complete CD being one big Concept Album with thematic continuity and dynamics. This is what he had in mind in those first couple of tracks on "Hot Fuss" but didn't have a whole CD's worth of it yet. (The two tunes on the "Bonus CD" are throwaways but they would fit well enough on "Hot Fuss.")
 
redarmy11 said:
Yes, yes, yes, but why does he [Geddy Lee] have to screech like that?
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He stopped singing like that a long time ago. Apparently it was not one of Rush's best-liked features.
Like a big girl. He looks like one too.
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Funny, one of my friends just formed a new band and he's trying to cover Journey. Quite a challenge. He can do Robert Plant and Brian Johnson because those guys are screaming more than singing, but Steve Perry sings.

Whereas another friend joined a band with a girl singer--she does a perfect Steve Perry.
 
Speaking of Journey, I decided to listen to Abraxas Pool, a one-time CD about 10 years ago from the awesome original rhythm section of Santana whom some later went on to form Journey after Carlos Santana's ego exploded and pushed everyone away. Good stuff. Saw them in concert during the few shows they played. Too bad they didn't stick around.

- N
 
Fraggle Rocker said:
He [Geddy Lee] stopped singing like that a long time ago. Apparently it was not one of Rush's best-liked features.
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Or alternatively: his balls dropped.

I know, I know. I've heard Grace Under Pressure (and nothing since, thank goodness). I found it weirdly.. aseptic. Mature. Controlled. Accessible. And as bland as a bowl of boiled rice. I think I preferred all that nonsensical screeching about the temples of Syrinx. :)

OK, OK, I confess. I've grown to quite like them really. A bit. Now. But, oh, I hated them so much for so long.

Safe to say they'll never be one of my favourite bands. I mean, I can smell the muso from 50 paces. *wrinkles nose in disgust*

Give me The Clash any day: "three chords and the truth". ;)
 
redarmy11 said:
I know, I know. I've heard Grace Under Pressure (and nothing since, thank goodness).
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Their more recent albums have been much better than that.
I found it weirdly.. aseptic. Mature. Controlled. Accessible. And as bland as a bowl of boiled rice. I think I preferred all that nonsensical screeching about the temples of Syrinx.
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I was always a Rush fan, we've probably seen them ten times over the years. And yes, "Farewell to Kings" was one of those defining albums of the Progressive Rock Era--like "Trick of the Tail," "Free Hand" and "Aqualung"--a peak that the band never quite reattained. Still, Rush is one of a single-digit number of bands from that era who, although they have kept up with the simplification of pop music, still sound like themselves and have not fallen completely into the genre of ditties or self-parody. Actually the others are not bands but individuals, like Robert Plant and Peter Gabriel.
:) OK, OK, I confess. I've grown to quite like them really. A bit. Now. But, oh, I hated them so much for so long.
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I know what you mean. I find myself tapping my foot to Foreigner and Boston.
Safe to say they'll never be one of my favourite bands. I mean, I can smell the muso from 50 paces.
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I have no idea what muso is. Too short to google out of the identically spelled acronyms and Japanese proper names.
Give me The Clash any day: "three chords and the truth".
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Not a bad band at all. I saw them when they warmed up The Who. I am quite happy with many of the contemporary groups like Korn and Gorillaz.
 
At least it's not Puffy AmiYumi

Fraggle Rocker said:
I just revisited this thread and stumbled onto this post. I hope you've got their new CD, "Sam's Town." It is brilliant. It could have been done 35 years ago in the Golden Age of Rock and Roll ... the complete CD being one big Concept Album with thematic continuity and dynamics ....
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Now that I'll have to check out. I keep hoping to see some promising goth-revival but ... yeah, it doesn't seem to be happening the way I'd hoped. Maybe Eldridge was right.

A friend of mine was just checking out Sam's Town. I'll see if I can steal it from him. Er ... wait, did I say that? I'll wait until I have permanent net access again and get the thing through iTunes. Right. Well. Er ... carry on.
 
tiassa said:
I keep hoping to see some promising goth-revival but ... yeah, it doesn't seem to be happening the way I'd hoped. Maybe Eldridge was right.
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Goth revival? With The Cure, Evanescence, and (I'm not making this up) the Pussycat Dolls hailed as goth, it hardly seems to have died. :)

One musicologist whose credentials are probably about as legitimate as mine put "Don'cha" in the category of "Goth 'n' B." He called the song--admittedly one of the dead-slowest dance tunes to come out in years with a depressing minor modality to boot--the "funeral march for erotic love."

"Maybe next lifetime, possibly..."

Well yeah okay, this sure ain't Donna Summer.
 
Mixed bag to-nite...

People's Spring - Warsaw Village Band
(Polish "neo-folk")

English Rebel Songs 1381 - 1984 Chumbawamba
(yeah... that Chumbawamba... acapella rebel/protest tunes from Foggy Isle's history)

Odin - Odin
(The liner blurb refers to them as "A British four piece progressive rock band"... this, apparently their one & only release - circa 1972 - sort of reminds me of Bloodrock "plus")

The Open Door - Evanescence
(mmm... "Goth Lite"... lotsa power chords, pensive introspection & production... Killjoy like production...)

Sai-So: The Remix Project - Kodo
(Japanese taiko drumming meets electronica producers... wax on, baby !)

Piece of Mind - Iron Maiden
(Die with your god damn boots on !)
 
Nas- Escobar '06
Nas & Jay Z-New York Takeover
Ludacris & M.J.B.- Runaway Love
Cassidy & Nas-Salute Me(remix)
Lupe Fiasco- Dead Presidents Freestyle
and...other stuff I haven't downloaded yet.
 
Fraggle Rocker said:

Goth revival?
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Well, the word promising is important there, too. I was a popchild, then a headbanger, a grunger by default, and went on a worldbeat kick about a decade ago that has never really taken full root. But I missed out on goth-pop except for the occasional Hughes film-related pseudogoth. In my day, only the anti-goth Sisters of Mercy ever struck me; "More" (Vision Thing) is one of my favorite songs ever recorded, but I still chuckle at their rendition of "Shout". Thanks to file trading (piracy), I've finally gotten around to Bauhaus (reviled by headbangers, of course), Echo, and derivative projects. (Ian McCulloch and Peter Murphy are both fascinating solo artists, to me.)

But I so completely missed the brief goth age that I figure a legitimate revival might, on the one hand, be the only thing that helps me understand why, having no concept of the goth culture until it was almost over--The Art School Girls of Doom was the first time I was able to laugh at bad goth humor, and largely because the stereotype finally crystallized for me--I was so frustrated that ... oh, never mind. It's a mother issue. And a black clothing thing. At any rate, to the other, I think a legitimate revival would be a very interesting thing to witness. I went to some festival recently (saw the Kaiser Chiefs, who give an acceptable, even appreciable set) and ... I don't remember why I was there, though. Must've been high? Or maybe sober. Yes, definitely, sober. Who the hell were we seeing? Sorry, I digress. Anyway, there was this one band whose name escapes me that utterly failed to rock, but their bassist looked insanely stupid, with a new-wave gel-sweep hairstyle, sunglasses, a white dress shirt, black suspenders, black trousers, and black work boots. It was sort of a new wave/goth/skinhead look that roused even my own pacifist need to kick his ass.

Anyway, glam has managed to find its place in the pop culture again, so why not goth?

But legitimately: Jet and The Darkness hearkened back to the better sounds of earlier hard rock, and then a couple of artists I only heard when subjected to commercial radio (e.g friend's house, &c.) seem to have made headlines for non-musical behavior, and though I have no clue who they are I seem to recall stupid hats and tight pants in that "chic faggot cowboy" manner that is supposed to be so heterosexually charged (e.g Poison, Motley Crue, &c.). (The last good chic faggot cowboy was the late Landrew Wood, of Mother Love Bone, whose passing is, for me, the end of glam.)

Anyway, get me a couple of promising goth-revival bands and watch what happens. It can't be any less entertaining than Depeche Mode.

Yeah. Er ... Depeche Mode and The Cure ... I'm still iffy about them.

And if I've managed to not name one legitimate goth band, well, that's part of my point.
 
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