On atheists and freedom of belief

[S.A.M.]

And when most of the people don't want such things, or "the government" comes up with ideas on its own?
Governments, qua governments, are due no rights at all, they are (or should be, as intended) public servants and representatives.

Know any government where the "servants of the people" are actually in a lower hierarchy?

 

[CheskiChips]

Uh please.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-28.html

...?

What does this prove?
My accusation is that his method of stoning was historically incorrect not that his view that stoning should be applied wasn't valid. According to the Talmud stoning should be an instant death with the first stone being so heavy it must be heaved off a cliff to inflict the fatal blow. Also Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel in the time when the religious courts had authority over capital punishment, a court that executed more than 1 person in 70 years was a "bloody court".

 

[Oli]

Unfortunately not.
But it doesn't alter my opinion about "rights" for government...

 

[Norsefire]

The government is the voice and structure of the people; the tool and the potential and the power of their will.

 

[CheskiChips]

Uh please.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-28.html

...?

What does this prove?
My accusation is that his method of stoning was historically incorrect not that his view that stoning should be applied wasn't valid. According to the Talmud stoning should be an instant death with the first stone being so heavy it must be heaved off a cliff to inflict the fatal blow. Also Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel in the time when the religious courts had authority over capital punishment, a court that executed more than 1 person in 70 years was a "bloody court".

What's wrong....can't argue this one? I want to see a "I guess you're right here Cheski" from SAM stat.

 

[S.A.M.]

I don't need to argue. The rabbi has already done it on my/your behalf.

 

[CheskiChips]

I don't need to argue. The rabbi has already done it on my/your behalf.

hahaha You either can't read...or admit you're wrong.
SAM...you are going to die a fool if you don't learn to read.

PLEASE re-read MY statement....then respond.

 

[Gustav]

Soon this will be the perfect thread, with every member viciously flaming every other member.

rubs hands together evily

Excellent.

i love sci!
mind you, lets not get carried away
flames are merely the icing on the cake

 

[S.A.M.]

hahaha You either can't read...or admit you're wrong.
SAM...you are going to die a fool if you don't learn to read.

PLEASE re-read MY statement....then respond.

If you have an argument about stoning, take it to another thread.

A detailed recorded case of stoning occurs in the Book of Joshua (7, 24) when a man named Achan (עכן) was found to have kept loot from Jericho, a conquered Canaanite city, in his tent. Under the mores reflected in that book, massacring the Canaanites was an acceptable and indeed praiseworthy act, but disobedience to God's command by taking loot to oneself was an act heinous enough that not only Achan himself but also his entire family were stoned to death by the gathered Hebrews, as a punishment.

I see you've been oppressing the Palistinians from way back when.

 

[Gustav]

hehe
good one

 

[CheskiChips]

If you have an argument about stoning, take it to another thread.



I see you've been oppressing the Palistinians from way back when.

Okay...that doesn't negate the fact that stoning was done by pushing a man off a cliff, then dropping a stone on him. Not by throwing rocks at him.

 

[(Q)]

If you have an argument about stoning, take it to another thread.

Yeah, take it to a thread about Hitler.

Oops sorry, that's every thread Sam has posted on that had nothing to do with Hitler.