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And that's another lie,
Wes, as I have
repeatedly documented.
I had no animosity or lack of civility toward you until you so graciously implied how useless my comments were.
And so we're left discussing your post "Re: Well ...." in which you apparently consider your disrespect appropriate. That disrespect is a lack of civility,
Wes; I don't know how you call ad hominem sleight-of-hand respectful or civil. I don't even know how you call that post civil at all,
Wes.
I was just backing my original assertion. You may deem it pointless but obviously I did not.
It
was pointless, specifically in the conversation you entered but didn't want to enter, except you didn't tell anyone anything about your context and expected me to read your mind, and you became uncivil when I failed the ESP test. Another discussion? Great. But your disrespect is founded in an insistence that arose from your presumption of the results of information you did not read. That much you've stated already, remember? You took a line according to your preferred context (your right) and then assigned that context to me (your mistake), and failed to establish that context in your post (your choice). And then you chose to assign me a shitty attitude apparently because I didn't praise you enough (another of your falsehoods, and though you chose that representation which is not factually substantiated, let me guess, you didn't lie?)
You see t, the deal is that I thought you WOULDN't try to read my mind and you'd respond to what I wrote at face value. Then it seemed like you were on crack or someting and arguing against that face value. I found that highly annoying, having not realized you were trying to read my mind.
And
Wes, that is
another of your representations that is not borne by the
facts.
But you don't lie, do you?
Wes, I don't think you're actually reading to the things you're responding to. I might be wrong in that but you seem to have missed a small running theme here that I cannot read your mind, I did not read your mind, and you seem to be upset by contextual confusion that arose because reading your mind would be the only "logical" way to presume your context correctly.
Go back to a gas station someday to ask the guy why he gave you bad directions to Portland. "I didn't give you bad directions," he says. "I gave you good directions." You think about this for a moment and say, "Sure, but to
Missoula." And the guy looks back at you and says, "Well, I thought you were smart enough to know I was telling you about Missoula." And you say, "But why would you do that? I asked you about Portland." And then the guy responds, "So why are you upset? You're just part of the problem." Now, maybe, just maybe, if the guy had said, "To get to Missoula from here," before he started giving you directions, you might have known he was giving you directions to Missoula and not Portland. But he took pains to be vague, to say things like, "and then you're there," instead of, "and then you arrive at Missoula".
Will you thank the guy for being of such valuable service to you?
So what is it,
Wes? Do you prefer to be thought of as a liar or as someone of mean spirit? Because your representation of these issues seems quite deliberately false. But you're
Wesmorris, so deliberate falsehood isn't a lie, right?
Because you don't lie, do you?
Whatever.
This is your fault really in my opinion, because you exactly DID try to read my mind and assume I was a disrespectful asshole.
Too bad you never tried to show that. But then again, I understand why you didn't, since the facts don't support your statement.
And no,
Wes, I did not try to read your mind and assume you were disrespectful. I refused to try to read your mind, and concluded your disrespect based on your conduct in the "Re: Well ...." post that you've tried so hard to justify but in doing so have misrepresented the facts, and seemingly deliberately, as you keep insisting that things have occurred which are not in evidence.
If you hadn't this wouldn't have happened
A sad dead-end appeal by a liar,
Wes. That's all this kind of statement is.
So in the spirit of friendship and goodwill, I retract my cuntulation and ask that you realize this was a big fat misunderstanding which led to a comedic exchange of bad blood, hopefully ending up as a situation in which it was all laughed at and everyone went home that much better for the entertainment.
I can look past everything but someone lying about me, even in a forum like this. And given how much effort you've put into your dishonesty, it will be a short while at least before the echo of your lies wears off and that, too, fades into the library of the insignificant.
I would love to consider this thing a "comedic exchange of bad blood" and leave it at that. But you crossed the line with your dishonesty.
Can't we all just smoke a bong?
An interesting dimension comes when you sink down to becoming part of the problem in your own opinion, which will finally reconcile your opinion of yourself with my opinion of you.
Sure we can. I intend to go have a rip as soon as I post this. And believe me, living with my partner, I'm very accustomed to drowning the very sensation that comes with someone casting lies about me in a haze of smoke, and I'm very accustomed to coming out smiling afterward. So much so that it's genuine.
Outside this topic is a whole different realm. The only part of this dispute that will extend beyond this topic is the reality of your dishonesty; I don't intend to drill you with it for the rest of your life, or even for a day. But neither will I tolerate future dishonesty in our disagreements.
Oh ... the five words regarding your Mudville one-liner: "It occurs to me that ...."
And the one-sentence "Re: Well": anything about apples and oranges, heads and tails, and so forth. "I think we're having an apples and oranges moment ...."
Seriously ... I just don't understand why you chose ad hominem and shallow disrespect at that point.
I think back to the free-for-all in Free Thoughts, with
Spookz,
gendanken, myself, and even you ("Three Acts"). Someday I'll ask you what about the idea that I'm perfectly willing to match you disrespect for disrespect if that's your chosen method escaped your perception, recognition, or memory.
