OG proposal #1 (June 09) - Cull worthless members?

Should we go ahead and remove useless members?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 10 38.5%

  • No.

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • Abstain.

    Votes: 7 26.9%
  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .
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I should also add this is too subjective to work. I think the vast majority of people here make "worthless" posts at some point according to various opinions. So there wouldn't be many people left. If any.
We have an ignore function for a reason, if someone is worthless, use it.
 
Anti-Flag said:
Already happens.

I'd agree with that too, there's thousands of people registered here, I haven't ever seen the vast majority of them.
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Look at the list. More than half have a big fat 0 for number of posts. I think all those should be deleted if they haven't posted within 6 months of registering. And for those that have a handful of posts (less than two dozen) and haven't posted in a year or so. Those people probably won't be back.

It would make navigating that list much easier!

I'm guessing the number of people who post here regularly is under 100. Those who do semi-frequently are probably not more than another hundred or so. I don't know, actually. :confused:
 
Giambattista said:
Look at the list. More than half have a big fat 0 for number of posts. I think all those should be deleted if they haven't posted within 6 months of registering. And for those that have a handful of posts (less than two dozen) and haven't posted in a year or so. Those people probably won't be back.

It would make navigating that list much easier!

I'm guessing the number of people who post here regularly is under 100. Those who do semi-frequently are probably not more than another hundred or so. I don't know, actually. :confused:
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Agreed. It's not a huge community by any means, the numbers are rather deceiving.
 
I wonder if many of those aren't started by bots or something?
Sometimes I think the naming convention is a dead giveaway.
 
takandjive said:
Well-said. I was just going to just say this was the stupidest goddamn idea ever. What you're going to end up with in this thread is a bunch of middle school whinings. Look, there are a few people I wish would fuck off and go post their stupidity elsewhere.

We KNOW who the problem people are. Why the hell are you asking forum members to do what admins and mods should have the spines to do? It's a new and interesting way to shirk responsibility.

I'm going to say it once more (and God knows I've said it enough) that we can ban Roman for posting abortion pictures, but Scott3x sends me a PM about fingering a minor and is generally a pain in the ass. James, I sent you a PM about it, and yes, I'm absolutely pissed off that I sent you my password to prove that I'm not bullshitting and your reaction is little more than a shrug. You want to be some sort of a leader, big boy? Well, then do it.
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I agree with you on this. I would much prefer a rambunctious Roman to a creepy Scott. Did you only send the pm to one mod? In future in special cases like that one its probably best to send a copy to two for good measure.
 
I miss Roman, actually.

Maybe we can do a trade with the admins... offer up a few posters to buy Roman back?
 
Liebling said:
I miss Roman, actually.

Maybe we can do a trade with the admins... offer up a few posters to buy Roman back?
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Like a troop exchange:p I miss Roman too. I found out about it late and by accident to boot.

So Liebling, just out of curiosity don't you think that if we ban members like TN and John that it won't be long before some other noob joins the site? I understand what you mean about them as posters but in reality they are actually quite harmless especially TN who can be quite a source of amusement at times. Neither of them are as distasteful as a scott for example. Personally I wouldn't have chosen either for a ban though I know where your coming from. I mean I have Sam on ignore and not either of them:p

Before her only have one member on ignore and he's been there for years.
 
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I didn't say John. Who's John?

And Tnerb and Draqon were more of a compassionate release than a punishment. This has become their main social center, and that's not healthy for anyone.

And I actually typed in S.A.M. as well for the exact same reason. Not because it would be okay for the forum, but I think it would be better for her emotionally. I think she wastes too much energy on hating groups of people and that it's made worse by the responses here.

More for their own good than anyone's here. Except for Scott3x, he's the exception. I don't think that this is a good place for the messages he's sending. And that he complains all the time, might have some paranoia and persecution issues and never ever can let anything just drop. But I am repeating myself.
 
takandjive said:
When you arbitrarily enforce things and have no consistent rules, you look foolish and bring out the worst in this community.
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How exactly this kind of enforcement brings out the worst in this community...?


Anti-Flag said:
I think the vast majority of people here make "worthless" posts at some point according to various opinions. So there wouldn't be many people left. If any.
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So you would prefer that people keep posting worthless posts...?


Lucysnow said:
So Liebling, just out of curiosity don't you think that if we ban members like TN and John that it won't be long before some other noob joins the site? I understand what you mean about them as posters but in reality they are actually quite harmless especially TN who can be quite a source of amusement at times.
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This is why I am against permaban. As previous example, in a "fly" condition, Tnerb would make threads or posts like this:


but when he is sober, he is actually able to make something like this:

I think temporary-ban (when appropriate) is enough.

As an analogy, I see sciforums owner as a party owner. The party owner invites people to come over for party; he provides place, tables, chairs, etc, but people who want to come should bring their own foods, drinks, etc. The owner don't give specific rule about what to bring although the party theme is "cake party" (analog to "intelligent community" in sciforums). Now we all sit on separate tables, offering each other some cakes or something similar to cake. However, there are some attendance who rather fling some poo to other people' tables randomly. Are we suppose to pretend we don't see the poo flinging as long as it doesn't hit our tables? :shrug: Why is it that we have to tolerate/understand/respect/be empathetic with the poo flinger, why not the poo flinger trying to understand/respect us, too, or why can't the party owner and his "servants" take action to moderate this by giving warning or temporary party banning to the poo flinger? Or shall we all start flinging poo too? Or selling shoes? Or exchanging porn?

I find such party is not just depressing, but also damaging.
 
Firstly, the members that registered and have never even posted once, and never get on.

After that, I don't think we should ban members on this sort of thing because it's too open to bias; how do we define "useless"? In my opinion, there are a number of users here that I feel are ignorant and do not contribute positively to the forum. However, I am quite sure there are some that might feel that I do not contribute to the forum (although I feel I do).

Therefore unless it's obvious that someone is spamming or derailing threads and it's obvious that they posess no intellectual capacity, then we shouldn't cull members.
 
Enmos said:
I have the impression that the proposal is going further than that.
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I have the impression that James wants some alone time, as there certainly isn't going to be anyone left here if we start banning people over something so open to interpretation. This is the second thread James has made like this recently, and unless he's making the very point that there wouldn't be anyone left here if we banned people so easily, then I'm unsure what he can actually be trying to accomplish.:shrug:
Can you honestly name a poster here who has never made a worthless post(in someone's opinion)? Hell even using one persons opinions there wouldn't be anyone left.
 
Anti-Flag said:
I have the impression that James wants some alone time, as there certainly isn't going to be anyone left here if we start banning people over something so open to interpretation. This is the second thread James has made like this recently, and unless he's making the very point that there wouldn't be anyone left here if we banned people so easily, then I'm unsure what he can actually be trying to accomplish.:shrug:
Can you honestly name a poster here who has never made a worthless post(in someone's opinion)? Hell even using one persons opinions there wouldn't be anyone left.
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I haven't decided yet whether he's being serious or just provocative, but I'm leaning towards the latter.
 
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