Of stampcollectors and atheists
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once again, practical application it is, eh?
Yes, it beats sitting on one's ass examining the contents of one's head and imagining one is discovering wisdom.
ironically enough, that is precisely the modus operandi of an adamant atheist when it comes to theistic claims
ironically enough, that is precisely the modus operandi of an adamant atheist when it comes to theistic claims
You are failing to make the necessary distinction between actively using one's intellect and soaking up nonsense like a sponge soaks up water.Theism is for the birds.
and you are succeeding to make the necessary distinction because?
according to the value system of atheism in full confidence, certainly
I make the distinction because I am intelligent and I use my reason. What's your excuse ?
I guess the next question is whether certain emotional issues infringe on your use of intelligence and reasoning
excuse for what?
Sorry to disappoint you but I have no hang-ups. I am quite happy as I am, as are many others like me, but I doubt you can understand that.
Excuse ? A rhetorical question !
I guess the general tendency is that everyone is quite happy with their value systems
That doesn't mean all value systems are of the same merit, however .... after all, even a person who enjoys smoking bongs, listening to death metal and video recording their erotic games with livestock could have no hangups, feel fine etc ... and they could even counter "don't knock it till you try it" too
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yes, if you like, even santa can be placed in the continuum (perhaps nowhere near the top) since there are issues of "goodness" being addressed
my point is that no matter how far flung a theistic practice is, it can assume a position in a linear analysis.
For instance the cargo cultists were simply accepting the most wondrous thing within their experience as god or an indication of god. That is not a bad general principle that inhibits further theistic progress.
And my point was that scenes invented as mockeries of sense and sensibility are easily incorporated into religions, where they blend indistinguishably into the variety of religious ritual already present on this planet.LG said:
Further theistic progress ? Yes, I can see that such general principles would be no barrier to further theistic progress of that - or any - kind.LG said:
No doubt the Apostle Frum's enlightenments will gain in sophistication as the years go by, and helmets made of finer things than scrap wood will prove shinier and more wondrous than the old radio headset mockups.
Maybe even, if they attain the sophistication of the bigtime religions, stained glass.
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the nature of something that appears greatly wondrous to a person is not an "invention"
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I think what you have missed is that people are predisposed to search out what is wondrous ....
Or perhaps we are merely predisposed to wonder. Even that which upon first glance seems banal is astonishing... particularly when enlightened by science IMO.
~Raithere
what to speak of being enlightened by transcendence
BG 13.3 I shall now explain the knowable, knowing which you will taste the eternal. Brahman, the spirit, beginningless and subordinate to Me, lies beyond the cause and effect of this material world.
In my experience and from what I can infer from others. Transcendence seems more of an emotional state or gestalt experience rather than an actual state of knowing. Not that I don't value it, I do. I believe it often provides insight. But it seems to be more a state of imaginative awareness than epiphany or revelation.
~Raithere