News from the Colonies - America's War in Iraq

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Hm, so what sort of argument would it be, then, to say that G holds the opinions he does because he must be a loser?
That would be an ad hominum argument.

I don't think anyone has bothered to make it, yet. Tiassa's above carries the opposite direction of implication, to the extent it matches at all, for example.
 
I find it fascinating that someone with such obvious superiority/inferiority issues would even admit having "superiors".

I mean, the word implies the distasteful idea that there are people better than you, and you have to do what they tell you. How demeaning for an otherwise well-adjusted, perfectly happy individual.

It must be tough. (Especially having people talk about you like you aren't there)
 
What has amused me for these years is that most of you still imagine that I hang out here so to purchase your validation.

Your superior nuanced mentalities imagine that I am not possibly simply mocking you.

News from the Colony, dudes.
 
"That which is brought to our attention, to be mocked, indeed shall be so mocked".

Signed - The Mockers.
 
"That which is brought to our attention, to be mocked, indeed shall be so mocked".

Signed - The Mockers.
As, indeed, is already mocked -- that which is not brought to your attention as being mocking.

Mockers not realizing they're mocked?

Scientist's all, no doubt.
 
And these seem to be the people to whom Gates refers. They were never proven to be terrorists. They likely aren't terrorists. And yet, some of them, upon release, "returned" to terrorism.

It's a shameless con.

This is so sad, those poor people. :bawl:
 
It's a travesty. Our unlawful imprisonments and "special renditions" are certainly fueling recruitment for our enemies, terrorist and otherwise.
 
Stand beside her, and guide her

S.A.M. said:

This is so sad, those poor people.

It is also cause for outrage, not only for the innocent, but also for the proposition that, if Gates was being truthful, our government released known terrorists instead of prosecuting them.

Such a situation suggests that our cause for imprisoning people is not a matter of public protection, but rather a fulfillment of private sadism.

You know, we have this really annoying song that we're expected to sing sometimes. We even had to endure it during the seventh-inning stretch at baseball games after 9/11:

God bless America,
Land that I love,
Stand beside her and guide her
Through the night with a light from above;

From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans white with foam.
God bless America,
My home, sweet home.
God bless America,
My home, sweet home.


(Irving Berlin)​

It would be devastating to accept that this is where God has led us.
 
Just caught an item on Al-J about the proposed deal W wants the Iraqis and the coalition to ink right quick (he's leaving soon apparently), to allow up to 50 permanent large bases, and tens of thousands of American troops with immunity from prosecution and more or less free reign to operate without the consent of the Iraq government - which kind of begs the question what the hell is the Iraq government? - has popped up in The Independent after being "leaked" by someone.
 
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It is also cause for outrage, not only for the innocent, but also for the proposition that, if Gates was being truthful, our government released known terrorists instead of prosecuting them.

Such a situation suggests that our cause for imprisoning people is not a matter of public protection, but rather a fulfillment of private sadism.

You know, we have this really annoying song that we're expected to sing sometimes. We even had to endure it during the seventh-inning stretch at baseball games after 9/11:

God bless America,
Land that I love,
Stand beside her and guide her
Through the night with a light from above;

From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans white with foam.
God bless America,
My home, sweet home.
God bless America,
My home, sweet home.


(Irving Berlin)​

It would be devastating to accept that this is where God has led us.
You know, t, it's really easy to move to Canada so that you don't have to endure the American experience, here in America.

If your life here sucks as much as you claim because here sucks so much, why not find a less suckful place to live that isn't here and so suckful?

Why do you devote so much time and energy bitching, even while you continue to voluntarily expose yourself to the chronically bitchable qualities of this annoying America?

Why would you continue to live with your mother even while she beats you for being who you are?
 
You're not smart enough to understand

Mr. G said:

You know, t, it's really easy to move to Canada so that you don't have to endure the American experience, here in America.

You're the one who hates this country enough to trash its principles and advocate a forfeiture of everything good about it. There are plenty of places in the world you could have moved over the years. Why did you stick around and try so hard to ruin this one?
 
Damn it

This can't be good news:

At least 10 Pakistani soldiers are reported to have been killed in an apparent airstrike by US-led forces close to the Afghanistan border.

Eight Taleban militants were also killed in the attack, reports say.

Reports say the militants had launched a cross-border attack and the US-led forces in Afghanistan countered with an airstrike, killing the soldiers.


(BBC News)

It's a breaking story at the Beeb website, posted minutes ago, if I'm counting my time zones correctly. Details, of course, will emerge with time.

Quite obviously, this just isn't what anybody needs. Well, maybe if you're a militant fundamentalist in Pakistan hoping to see the U.S. further demonized throughout your nation.
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Notes:

BBC. "Pakistan troops 'die in US raid'". June 11, 2008. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7447608.stm
 
Why is there always a pattern of "insurgents" being met with airstrikes and ending up killing innocents?

And how do they identify insurgents from the air? Are they carrying signs?


You're the one who hates this country enough to trash its principles and advocate a forfeiture of everything good about it. There are plenty of places in the world you could have moved over the years. Why did you stick around and try so hard to ruin this one?

He's a fascist at heart. He couldn't do much in a fascist state, he would be irrelevant. Now rooting for a democracy to become a fascist state? That's an achievement.
 
Welcome to sunny Gitmo!

Source: Daily Mail
Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tanamo-Bay---sickest-souvenir-shop-world.html
Title: "Greetings from Guantanamo Bay ... and the sickest souvenir shop in the world", by Angela Levin
Date: May 4, 2008

I missed this little item the first time through. And then I just had to go catching up on back episodes of Wait, Wait ... Don't Tell Me!

That's the problem with podcasts. When you hear something unbelievable, the first thing you do is turn to Google. Then you wish you hadn't. The conventional wisdom is fairly simple: If you hear it on a National Public Radio game show, it's probably true.

Scary? Maybe.

The sands are white, the sea laps gently and crowds of bronzed Americans laze in the Caribbean sunshine.

They have a cinema, a golf course and, naturally, a gift shop stocked with mugs, jaunty T-shirts and racks of postcards showing perfect sunsets and bright green iguanas.

Only the barbed wire decoration, a recurring motif, hints at anything wrong.

Welcome to "Taliban Towers" at Guantanamo Bay, the most ghoulishly distasteful tourist destination on the planet ....

.... While the detainees lie incarcerated, visitors can windsurf, take boat trips and go fishing for grouper, tuna, red snapper and swordfish.

The United States' 1.5million service personnel and Guantanamo's 3,000 construction workers are eligible to visit the "resort", which boasts a McDonald's, KFC and a bowling alley.

They even have a Wal-Mart supermarket.

The vacation comes at a knock-down price: just $42 (£20) per night for a suite of air-conditioned rooms, including a kitchen, bathroom, living room and bedrooms.

But it is the souvenirs that have led to the greatest criticism. One T-shirt from the gift shop is decorated with a guard tower and barbed wire. It reads: "The Taliban Towers at Guantanamo Bay, the Caribbean's Newest 5-star Resort."

Another praises "the proud protectors of freedom". A third displays a garish picture of an iguana and states: "Greetings from paradise GTMO resort and spa fun in the Cuban sun."

A child-sized shirt says: "Someone who loves me got me this T-shirt in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba."


(Levin)


Gitmo gear: Some of the toys and trinkets available at the gift shop.
(via Daily Mail)

On reflection, it's not really that hard to believe. Rather, it is kind of like the march to war; while it is easy enough to accuse our government of being so crass, it really is unpleasant. Although we consider our politicians and policymakers twisted and unworthy of our trust, there comes a point when it seems simply too much. Just as it was somehow offensive to accuse the administration of lying in its pitch for war in Iraq, it seems utterly distasteful to accuse the government of making a crass tourist pitch for Guantanamo. I mean, just how low do we think these people are?

At some point, we should just accept that there really is no limit.
 
You know, t, it's really easy to move to Canada so that you don't have to endure the American experience, here in America.

If your life here sucks as much as you claim because here sucks so much, why not find a less suckful place to live that isn't here and so suckful?

Why do you devote so much time and energy bitching, even while you continue to voluntarily expose yourself to the chronically bitchable qualities of this annoying America?

Why would you continue to live with your mother even while she beats you for being who you are?

Seems pretty clear to me. In a country where potential can flourish, no one is satisfied if their only potential is stay-at-home mom.

T would probably be more satisfied in a state-run environment where potential is an electrical term.
 
The measure of progress

How, exactly, do we measure progress in Iraq? During recent declines in violence around Baghdad, much has been made about the improvement, the surge, and the future of Iraq. But a deadly bombing in the Huriya neighborhood of Baghdad punctuates that talk with a significant question mark:

A car bomb during the evening rush in a northwest Baghdad neighborhood of Huriya on Tuesday evening wrought spectacular damage to a bustling market. According to one eyewitness, stall and shop-fronts were completely blasted away and rescue workers were struggling to attend to at least 51 dead and a yet unknown number wounded, while lamentations, screaming and vows of vengeance filled the air. As of 10:30 p.m., a spokesman for the Iraqi Ministry of Interior said casualties were still being tallied because not all the wounded had even been found.

The bombing, the worst violence that Baghdad has seen in three months, is a sharp jolt to a city where confidence was running high after a long run of relative stability, and it serves as a stark reminder of just how fragile the sectarian peace here is.

Predominantly Sunni before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, Huriya became one of the most vicious scenes of Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence in the urban chaos that followed, with night-roaming Shi'ite militias eventually gaining the upper hand, either killing or expelling most of the Sunni population. During this period, a Shi'ite death squad executed the head of the Bata tribe, a Sunni clan prevalent in the neighborhood.

According to one eyewitness tonight, a car with four women occupants was somehow allowed into what is otherwise a vehicle-restricted market area. The women parked the car; they all departed; and the auto then detonated in a massive flash of heat, light, noise and destruction. The bombing may have been timed to coincide with a meeting at a nearby military base just 150 meters from the blast site, between U.S. forces and the Sunni leaders who used to be in charge of the area. If those attendees were the true targets, the bomb may have been intended as a sign that the Shi'as who now occupy Huriya have no intention of ceding any territory.


(Frederick)

Certainly, this bombing does not mean that all talk of progress is wrong. We cannot expect perfection. But today's dead starkly remind that, as the situation in Iraq continues to develop, those wishing to wreak havoc are still capable of doing so.

Last night I started catching up on a couple of Ultimate Fighting events I'd missed, and a certain loose analogy strikes me. Are the statistical changes hailed over recent weeks and months genuine progress, or is it akin to saying, during the break between rounds that a fighter is doing better because he's not getting hit as much right now? In other words, did we achieve real progress, or simply enjoy the slightest of breathers while the fighters reassessed their situations and came back out after the sound of some cosmic bell?

Obviously, we all hope for real progress, but in this age of 24/7 political coverage, how much of what we hear is reliable? Perhaps time will prove today's bombing a deviation from the general trend, but for now it may well serve its intended effect of terrorizing the people caught up in the middle of a waking nightmare.
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Notes:

Frederick, Jim. "Once Again, a Shattered Peace in Iraq". Time. June 17, 2008. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1815524,00.html
 
You're the one who hates this country enough to trash its principles and advocate a forfeiture of everything good about it. There are plenty of places in the world you could have moved over the years. Why did you stick around and try so hard to ruin this one?
I was here on the planet long before you ever were.

I stick around here to ruin your personal take on reality.

You are not the resident authority.

You're just another late-comer.
 
Mr G. said:
I was here on the planet long before you ever were.
You mean, back before the North American landmass was colonised?
Or just "back before" any old time that anyone cares to mention?
 
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