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chuuush said:
You are stupid or what! do not put the blame of the done by others on the Palesitinians. Was Hitler a palestianians? I don't think so. Were the Church leaders who prosecured the jews palesitianians? I don't think so. Were the Europeans and Americans who kept a closed eye on the jewish massacre palesitinians? I don't think so. It was the Eurpoeans and the chrisitians who prosecuted the jews, not the people of palestine.


What we have done save taking your land by force and killing hundreds of thousands of your men, children and women. That's not a big deal.
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Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini
He killed Jews at every opportunity, but also eliminated Arabs who did not ... al-Hajj Amin Husayni and the Arab Higher Committee (Photo) · Nazi ally, ...
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php



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Axes said:
What we have done save taking your land by force and killing hundreds of thousands of your men, children and women.


The total tally of casualties from the Arab-Israeli conflict is 60,000. Out of them 12,000 Palestinians (Civilians and Combatants). And Geoff was speaking of the Palestinian massacres of Jews which occured before the founding of the state.
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Gime me the sources of your ridiculous statistics and news.
 
chuuush said:
Gime me the sources of your ridiculous statistics and news.
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Actually it is you who presented the number "100,000's" so the burden of proof is on you. My numbers come from variouse casualty statistics of all the war's and low intensity conflicts which erupted between Israeli's and Arabs.

For instance, the number of Arabs killed in the 1948 war is 15,000, out of them 4000 Palestinians.
 
Axes said:
Actually it is you who presented the number "100,000's" so the burden of proof is on you. My numbers come from variouse casualty statistics of all the war's and low intensity conflicts which erupted between Israeli's and Arabs.

For instance, the number of Arabs killed in the 1948 war is 15,000, out of them 4000 Palestinians.
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Who counts the bodies after the daily military insurgencies, the air raids, the sniper attacks, the deaths at checkpoints due to no access to medical care?
 
Axes said:
Actually it is you who presented the number "100,000's" so the burden of proof is on you. My numbers come from variouse casualty statistics of all the war's and low intensity conflicts which erupted between Israeli's and Arabs.

For instance, the number of Arabs killed in the 1948 war is 15,000, out of them 4000 Palestinians.
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Though it seems you made only a long shot of a guess, yet again I do not object at the number. My objection starts where you claims that the minor part of the casualties (14,000) were the Palestinians, and the jews lost more lives.
 
chuuush said:
Though it seems you made only a long shot of a guess, yet again I do not object at the number. My objection starts where you claims that the minor part of the casualties (14,000) were the Palestinians, and the jews lost more lives.
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If you want to make a pissing contest about numbers, who am I to stand in your way, though you took my numbers out of context.

60,000 Arabs were killed in the framework of the Arab-Israeli conflict. 20,000 Israeli's were killed. The vast majority of those casualties were military personel. For instance, Arab forces suffered 15,000 KIA in 1967, and about 13,000 KIA in 1973.

Out of those 60,000, Palestinians number about 12,000, Militant and Civilian. That number is lower, for instance, than the number of civilians killed by Haf'z Assad in 3 days when fighting an insurrection in Hama.
 
S.A.M. said:
Who counts the bodies after the daily military insurgencies, the air raids, the sniper attacks, the deaths at checkpoints due to no access to medical care?
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In 1948??

Or are we talking about the Israeli side now?
 
That's interesting. Did any of the other leaders agree to raise SS divisions and want a Holocaust of their very own in Palestine?
 
hypewaders said:
"Post all other pics of other leaders meeting Hitler. Youd be quite surprised :)"

Hear, hear.
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if im not mistaken that was before the war, when the west believed Hitler was a friendly individual who wanted peace. how could they have know right? :shrug:
 
I'm really disappointed that you never answered my question, Sam.
 
hypewaders said:
"Post all other pics of other leaders meeting Hitler. Youd be quite surprised :)"

Zig Heil-Zeg Heil.
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GeoffP beat me to that question, but again tell me how many troops the Pope Raised for Hitler? and when did the Pope visit the Death camps in the Company of Himmler.


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Hajj Amin al-Husayni in the company of German SS and Bosnian members of the Waffen-SS during an official visit to Bosnia, ca. 1943.
 
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hypewaders said:
"Post all other pics of other leaders meeting Hitler. Youd be quite surprised :)"

Zig Heil-Zeg Heil.
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November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti:

"To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.

Signed: Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"

Nuremberg Trial.

Adolf Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified during his war crimes trial in 1946 that ... "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
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hypewaders said:
"Post all other pics of other leaders meeting Hitler. Youd be quite surprised :)"

Hear, hear.
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Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [7] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel's Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem."[8] According to the German researchers Husayni was a prime example of how Arabs and Nazis became friends out of a hatred of Jews. Al-Husayni had met several times with Adolf Eichmann [9], Adolf Hitler's chief architect of the Holocaust[10][10],[11],[12],[13],[14].
 
hypewaders said:
"Post all other pics of other leaders meeting Hitler. Youd be quite surprised :)"

Zig Heil-Zeg Heil.
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In January, 1944, the Mufti made a second visit to and spent three days with the Handzar Division, which would arrive in Bosnia from Germany later that month. In a speech to the Division, he made the following declaration of principles which was to guide not only Bosnian Muslims, but Muslims throughout the world:

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/006.shtml

This division of Bosnian Muslims established with the help of Greater Germany, is an example to Muslims in all countries. There is no other deliverance for them from imperialistic oppression than hard fighting to preserve their homes and faith. Many common interests exist between the Islamic world and Greater Germany, and those make cooperation a matter of course. The Reich is fighting against the same enemies who robbed the Muslims of their countries and suppressed their faith in Asia, Africa, and Europe. Germany is the only Great Power which has never attacked any Islamic country. Further, National-Socialist Germany is fighting against world Jewry. The Koran says: "You will find that the Jews are the worst enemies of the Muslims." There are also considerable similarities between Islamic principles and those of National-Socialism, namely in the affirmation of struggle and fellowship, in stressing leadership, in the idea of order, in the high valuation of work. All this brings our ideologies close together and facilitates cooperation. I am happy to see in this division a visible and practical expression of both ideologies.
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