Originally posted by notme2000
A more serious note though... To whatsupyall claiming that since athiests claim there is no God they are the ones with the burden of proof...
It is impossible to prove something does not exist. It is, however, possible to prove something does exist. Thus the burden of proof lies on your shoulders. This is why athiests always say they would believe in a God if there were ANY reason, but you never give us any...
Listen notme2000, and for all the atheists...It's very smple if you want to disprove God...I can summarize it in 2 ways..
1. Create life forms, in doing these you eliminate the need of a "Lifegiver"....
(For many believers,like the caveman analogy, linking to God what they dont understand.)
2. Eliminate all supernatural claims, for it gives God the chance to exist who is beyond the laws of nature. In other words disprove the paranormal claim of miracles, such as the bleeding statues in Japan, to south america, etc. claims of haunted houses, demonstrate that such occurences are just "static electricity" running around the house. When someone is hearing voices asking them to kill their parents and family, this can b linked to demon possesion "schizophrenic", now disprove its not and demonstrate that it is just the "BRAIN CHEMICALS".... Disprove people's testimonies, from Christians slain in spirit, to those who have incurable cancers healed in prayers, to those who claimed to have seen paranormal vision, disprove them by demonstrating that it is just the "BRAIN CHEMICAL"....(Furthermore, you can also disprove God by disproving moral values and virtues is not effective, that it cannot come from God that wishes we must get along, as a father wishes best for his children.)
If you can do above, I will immediately become atheist, because it eliminates the role of God. BUT UNTIL THEN, SHUT YOUR HOLE, YOU HAVE NO BASIS IN YOUR ARGUMENT BUT JUST RANTS AND RAMBLE...
Now the proof of God, Ill also summarize it to two...But if u look deeper, theres much more to it....
1. Bleeding statues, faith healing, milllions of testimony, etc. proven miracles scientifically investigated, (though remember even factual evidence requires faith.)
2. Cause and effect. Proven Intelligent design. Could the design that obviously now exist in a man & in a human brain come from something with less or no design? Such an explanation violates the principle of causality, which states that u cant get more in the effect than u had in the cause. If there is intelligence in the effect (man), there must b intelligence in the cause. But a universe ruled by blind chance has no intelligence. Therefore there must b a cause for human intelligence that transcends the universe: a mind behind the physical universe. (Most of the great scientists (Albert Einstein, etc.) have believed in such a mind, by the way, even those who did not accept any revealed religion.)
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You might say "Well just beecause you see the effect of the intelligent cause, and that people have testified that their incurable cancers are healed when they prayed to God, it doesnt mean you can use God as the cause of it, how do I know its not some fuzzy pink elephants?"
LOL, or giant purple squid monkey right? LOL, listen, there is no denial that intelligence effect comes from intelligent cause..Thats a FACT.
If you insist, well prove to me Napoleon exist, Magellan, Columbus, Shakespeare, prove to me they exist? because of the legacy they left behind? What's the difference between that evidence and evidence for God?
From your point of view, Blackhole is a myth, King Henry is a myth, Shakespeare is a myth, Queen Elizabeth is a myth, God is a myth...
Now what about that the scientist's speculation and guess concerning "placebo" and miracles, which they donot understand and cant explained, what about their "testimonies"? Dont they have any voice?
Of course they are entitled to their speculation and guess, they are entitled to claim that millions of christians are lying, and that God didnt heal them because they prayed to Him, they lied, it was "MR. BRAIN CHEMICAL", scientists can make that claim..\
But who should I believe? The 3 people who have the title "Scientist"?, and doesnt even know what they are talking about but is just speculating, or the millions TO WHO THE MIRACLES HAPPENED TO, who is telling the truth?
To me, I believe in high probability, TO ME it is very unlikely and unprobable for millions to lie, meanwhile theres other 3 scientist who also made a guess....
Note: Desertratuk, I am not judging them, I am calling them names. Judging them (justice) means making them pay for the mistake they commited, such as throwing them to prison for lying, or punching them for cursing, thats judgment. I am simply calling them names, such as "What a lying idiot",thats name calling...It is wrong but I cant help it, may god help me...
- her. She is the only real God, all others are mere fairtales. My God is real. You are all fools to believe otherwise.