Morality and burden upon society

Michael 345 said:
I haven't kept up with stem cell research but as I understand current treatment consists of obtaining the stem cells from the patients own body before returning them to the problem area where they rebuild defects

That's it

Do you have some other type of procedure in mind?

:)
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Most is thrown away as waste.

Look at a fertility clinic.
 
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Beer w/Straw said:
Most is thrown away as waste.

Look at a fertility clinic.
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Where can I find a fertility clinic treating

a old sterile MALE pensioner patient for ARTHRITIS

with HIS OWN stem cells being used in

the treatment of said ARTHRITIS and

NOT in an attempt to revitalise his reproductive ability?

What little waste is produced is solely his and comes from the process of blood cleaning

:)
 
Most stem cell treatments today are, as BwS said, done with a patients own cells.

Embryonic Stem Cells (ESCs) are pluripotent, meaning they can turn into all three types of cells (ectoderm, endoderm, and mesoderm). They were the "holy grail" of stem cells, but had to be taken from, well, an Embryo.

Adult stem cells (or mesenchymal stem cells, or MSCs) are found in any living person, and are mesodermic only. However, this is still very adaptable and can be used in almost any application ESCs could be used.

This is a pretty good article about it.
https://www.regenexx.com/mesenchymal-stem-cell-vs-embryonic-stem-cell/

The problem is, people hear "Stem Cell" and immediately go "OH NOES SAVE DA BABEH!"... because, well, "People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals"
 
timojin said:
MY POINT WAS: unwed female producing
Asian 12 %
Whites 28.4 %
Pacific isla 47. 7 %
Latinas 52.5 %
America in 68.1 %
Blacks 69.7 %
The same we can see where most of welfare payment recipient are.
I can say getting pregnant out of wedlock creates parasites for the society
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Yes, I think that most people know that the clear majority of welfare recipients are white. So what is your point?
 
timojin said:
Are you talkin on percent bases ? you must be wrong.
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No, he's correct. A clear majority of welfare recipients in the US are white.

That's true even if you omit white people's advantages, like farm subsidies and SS disability and Medicare and unemployment benefits, from your accounting of "welfare" programs.

This should be obvious - there are eight times as many white people, so if even 12% are receiving any kind of welfare at all the entire population of black people would be necessary to even up the numbers.
 
timojin said:
I can say getting pregnant out of wedlock creates parasites for the society
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Why?

Merely being unmarried doesn't mean you're not in a stable, committed relationship, just for starters.

Another thought: how many women become pregnant and then go on to get married during or following the pregnancy?
 
iceaura said:
No, he's correct. A clear majority of welfare recipients in the US are white.

That's true even if you omit white people's advantages, like farm subsidies and SS disability and Medicare and unemployment benefits, from your accounting of "welfare" programs.

This should be obvious - there are eight times as many white people, so if even 12% are receiving any kind of welfare at all the entire population of black people would be necessary to even up the numbers.
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Are you saying there is a higher percentage of white people on welfare of the total 330million, based the black population been 12 % or say 39million black population and 291 million white population ( including latin )
aRe you saying : white welfare % is > than black welfare , based on each group. I would like to see your data.
 
James R said:
Why?

Merely being unmarried doesn't mean you're not in a stable, committed relationship, just for starters.

Another thought: how many women become pregnant and then go on to get married during or following the pregnancy?
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I am sure you can find good explanation for your point , You are in Australia or Nz. were your black population extremely low . So I would say your point is good but out of my contention.
 
timojin said:
I am sure you can find good explanation for your point , You are in Australia or Nz. were your black population extremely low . So I would say your point is good but out of my contention.
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Wasn't it you who had gotten upset more than once when your nationality was cited as a point of argument in a discussion?

Is it fair to say, "it's understandable you feel that way, you being from Russia and all"?
 
DaveC426913 said:
Wasn't it you who had gotten upset more than once when your nationality was cited as a point of argument in a discussion?

Is it fair to say, "it's understandable you feel that way, you being from Russia and all"?
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In this case my posting was based on the USA society where morality is related to have sex out of wedlock . My point to show different ethnic groups in USA have produce higher percentage of children out of wedlock and that is a sign of morality. Immorality I believe have a price on the whole society .
The figures will be different in different societies , thas is what I meant to James R post.
 
timojin said:
In this case my posting was based on the USA society where morality is related to have sex out of wedlock . My point to show different ethnic groups in USA have produce higher percentage of children out of wedlock and that is a sign of morality. Immorality I believe have a price on the whole society .
The figures will be different in different societies , thas is what I meant to James R post.
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How many childern are made out of wedlock in Russia ?
 
river said:
How many childern are made out of wedlock in Russia ?
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I don't know. I was not born there. Doubt there were not as many children born out of wedlock in the 1950 or in the 1960 in the USA compared to the 2016 . SO if that is so than what do we say about morality direction
 
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