Masculinity and men
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Hey, Buddha1, why should anyone care if interests of some men to hug and fuck other men are opressed (by a society of which they too are a part of)?
You see, there are several reasons why not:
1. Those that are opressed are so weak-willed that they can not fuck what they want in the intimacy of their dwellings, so one surely can not expect that they'd have the will to stand against the society in the open.
2. Those that have the will to hug and fuck other men and do that -> they don't need any help, because they have no problem to realize their sexual fantasies (at the same time them being slaves to their sex drive and desires)
3. Those that have no interest in hugging and fucking other men - it's not even remotely their problem.
So, why is it your problem, Buddha1?
Have I missed a group of people? Or haven't I?
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p.s. I was annoyed by one of your oh so released ones at a metal concert a few days ago trying to hit on me.
I had to become a bit rude to get rid of the dickruled meat fucker.
You see, there are several reasons why not:
1. Those that are opressed are so weak-willed that they can not fuck what they want in the intimacy of their dwellings, so one surely can not expect that they'd have the will to stand against the society in the open.
2. Those that have the will to hug and fuck other men and do that -> they don't need any help, because they have no problem to realize their sexual fantasies (at the same time them being slaves to their sex drive and desires)
3. Those that have no interest in hugging and fucking other men - it's not even remotely their problem.
So, why is it your problem, Buddha1?
Have I missed a group of people? Or haven't I?
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p.s. I was annoyed by one of your oh so released ones at a metal concert a few days ago trying to hit on me.
I had to become a bit rude to get rid of the dickruled meat fucker.
EXAMINING SEX AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN AND WOMEN FOR THEIR MASCULINITY VALUE
As per my analysis, the sexual act by itself --- whether with a man or a woman is not masculine or feminine. It depends on the person --- if the person is masculine the act of sex whether with the man or woman will be masculine. If the person is feminine the at of sex with the man or woman will be feminine.
Masculinity here should not be confused with aggressiveness. Love making is passionate.
Masculinity should also not be confused with the act of penetration whcih has a high 'social masculinilty' value.
As per my analysis, the sexual act by itself --- whether with a man or a woman is not masculine or feminine. It depends on the person --- if the person is masculine the act of sex whether with the man or woman will be masculine. If the person is feminine the at of sex with the man or woman will be feminine.
Masculinity here should not be confused with aggressiveness. Love making is passionate.
Masculinity should also not be confused with the act of penetration whcih has a high 'social masculinilty' value.
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Why should anyone care about YOU? Period? Why? I'm bordering on not caring.
Good.
a. This is not a post really appropriate for this thread, but since you've raised it again and again I'd reply. Although I've addressed your point before --- you're asking why should the society be worried about male sexual need for men, if they can't come out and accept it themselves?Avatar said:
b. I don't think you can understand things unless you look at them in the proper perspective. As long as you see them in the popular western perspective you'll miss the issues. It's not my fault then that you can't see them. To be able to get a better pespective you will have to come out of the distorted confines of the groupings that you've done.
c. The indivisual man, like I said before is totally helpless and vulnerable before oppressive social powers, especially when he has been psychologically broken from other men.
His naural masculinity and strengths have been taken away from him. He is made totally dependant on social masculinity, which gives the society a tool to manipulate and train him according to its whims and fancies.
You can compare this with a large powerful elephant who is tamed and enchained by the humans through tricking and manipulating his behaviour/ attitudes. Men receive the same treatment.
I see no reason why as men we cannot talk about it --- even if the powerful vested interest group opposes it tooth and nail. Man like the elephant is enchained. But he is human. and he is powerful If he could see his enemy he will fight.
The problem is that his chains are so invisible that he has not been able to see who the enemy really is. And I'm just trying to make him see. Through reason and well within the confines of the codes of conduct of this forum.
Do you have any reason why I shouldn't be doing this?
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I would answer if I knew what you're talking about!Avatar said:
Well I've proved that almost every man has a sexual need for other men. so there is no point in your contention anymore.Avatar said:
They are not weak. They have forgotten their powers and I'm just trying to remind them of their immense power. They are the most powerful human gender.
This is nature. And this is beautiful. precisely the reason I'm bringing up the issue.Avatar said:Yeah, this ->
IS RECEPTIVE ANAL INTERCOURSE A NATURALLY FEMININE ACT/ DESIRE?
the act of being penetrated is linked with feminine gendered males (gays of our times) since a long time now. Even before Christianity came. Even in the times of the ancient Greeks who celebrated sex with men otherwise (they are supposed to have encouraged male sex between masculine gendered men (straights of today) that invovled thigh 'fucking'.
In fact the act of 'being fucked' has been denigrated for long along with femininity in males, with which it has been associated. In the modern times the association goes like: desire for other men = desire for getting fucked = femininity.
It would be interesting to look at the history of denigration through feminisation of the act of being anally penetrated.
SO THE QUESTION IS:
IS THE ACT OR DESIRE OF BEING PENETRATED NATURALLY FEMININE OR IS IT PART OF SOCIAL FEMININITY?
O.K. let's talk about this:Buddha1 said:
the act of being penetrated is linked with feminine gendered males (gays of our times) since a long time now. Even before Christianity came. Even in the times of the ancient Greeks who celebrated sex with men otherwise (they are supposed to have encouraged male sex between masculine gendered men (straights of today) that invovled thigh 'fucking'.
In fact the act of 'being fucked' has been denigrated for long along with femininity in males, with which it has been associated. In the modern times the association goes like: desire for other men = desire for getting fucked = femininity.
It would be interesting to look at the history of denigration through feminisation of the act of being anally penetrated.
SO THE QUESTION IS:
IS THE ACT OR DESIRE OF BEING PENETRATED NATURALLY FEMININE OR IS IT PART OF SOCIAL FEMININITY?
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Buddha1 said:
Why does every survey say there are only 5-10% men wth sexual need for other men?
Stop living in a fantasy world.
You are welcome to discuss these surveys in the thread "95% of men have a sexual interest in men".spuriousmonkey said:
It is obvious that you wouldn't dare to bring up the exact surveys for discussion, because you know that they are all flawed. They are valid as long as we assume that what men say is what they feel. As long as we discredit the sexual identities as not valid, they lose all value.
Face it, these surveys only tell you what exists on the surface. They do a head count of the masks. But the masks are not the real men. I'm talking about nature here.
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