Looks like the Iran invasions not far off =/
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It seems like are the apes are coming in to collect leftovers that have been thrown out .
Jump on it quickly ape before someone else takes it . Quick
Jump on it quickly ape before someone else takes it . Quick
1. Ghassan pulls bullshit theory out of ass.
2. Theory is questioned, no amplification is provided.
3. Ghassan resorts to ad hominem attacks in lieu of rational discussion.
4. ...
5. Respect ++
Way to make an argument, ace. Go stand in front of an IDF bulldozer.
2. Theory is questioned, no amplification is provided.
3. Ghassan resorts to ad hominem attacks in lieu of rational discussion.
4. ...
5. Respect ++
Way to make an argument, ace. Go stand in front of an IDF bulldozer.
No theory has been questioned , my awareness of the issues is what has been questioned . The ad-hom was received and returned . Dont make things up Stokes , I know its only natural for you to do so but try to controll yourself now and then . They will throw out left-overs tomorrow as well .
But ofcourse not a recapturing of the situation you care for , nor the issue at hand . Be honest to yourself for once .
Go stand in front of an IDF bulldozer.
And thats the difference between you and me Stokes : I wont stand in front of any bulldozers nor will I blow myself up or commit any other actions that are paralel to the service in the deathsquad for an imaginary entity and ideal you provide on a daily basis , Stokes .
Why are you here ? Why are you not dying in Iraq ?
Go on , you know it is the right place for you to be . Go and die it is your destiny .
But ofcourse not a recapturing of the situation you care for , nor the issue at hand . Be honest to yourself for once .
Go stand in front of an IDF bulldozer.
And thats the difference between you and me Stokes : I wont stand in front of any bulldozers nor will I blow myself up or commit any other actions that are paralel to the service in the deathsquad for an imaginary entity and ideal you provide on a daily basis , Stokes .
Why are you here ? Why are you not dying in Iraq ?
Go on , you know it is the right place for you to be . Go and die it is your destiny .
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your friend Nico just turned 17 last month.
Oth, please I do not want to be part this mass of ad hom, and pointless insults. I turned 17 in May that was last month? Yes I am 17 and I personally don't see any relevance with age as long as you show are capable of real debate. So please refrain from comparing me to this new guy.
your friend Nico just turned 17 last month.
Oth, please I do not want to be part this mass of ad hom, and pointless insults. I turned 17 in May that was last month? Yes I am 17 and I personally don't see any relevance with age as long as you show are capable of real debate. So please refrain from comparing me to this new guy.
I know its hard to believe, but I really dont think the Bush administration is dumb enough to take any sort of military action against Iran. Although the conservatives of this country will continue to hold on to their doublethink idealogy that although (The war in Iraq is being lost) the (War on terroism is being won), it seems likely that they are doing so with a great amount of hesitation. Knowing that although (the war on terroism is being won), that theyre is also the fact that (the war is making the middle east increasingly unstable). What I would guess is that this sort of thought process has become so contradictory, that the conservatives arent really willing to take it too far in either direction. Rather, I'd guess they just want to wait out their current debacle in the Mid East and just hope that somehow things start getting better. Sure they may make the occasional verbal threat against the Iranian government, but to actually go to the next level and attack seems unlikely. Although you never know.....
lolol! rotflmao
Nico:
hey man, my point was that age is irrelevant here, and you're a good example... while dear ghass farted an ad hom insult for someone who's just a tad younger than yourself.
Floyder:
who says the war in iraq is being lost? the coalition forces have established tons of civil services, economy is running, a new police force has been established, a governing council has been established.. small moves man. small moves. everything's going according to plan....except a few terrorist bombings here and there by outsiders who are killing iraqis too. as for the death toll of soldiers, it is pretty low when comparing to previous similar conflicts (i'm not dismissing the fact they're dying out there, but in smaller numbers than avg.)
i also think that the US won't make the mistake as they did with NK... containment failed with NK. look at them now, already a [unofficial] nuclear power. you think anyone is gonna allow a fanatic theocracy to aqcuire nuclear weapons? dream on. i think the US is simply going to give a green light (under the table of course) to the israeli army to bomb the shit out of the nuclear plants in Iran.
who says the war in iraq is being lost?
The war in Iraq is being lost, how can u say that? Using that logic oth, the war in Afghanistan in the 80's was being won by the USSR. They also created a puppet concil, and they also created highways, and they created schools, and they also created spheres of influence and control in the cities. And in the Middle East, and Central Asia the cities are not the key. The rural areas are, and they hold the key to power. Cities like Najaf, and Saddam city are the key to power.
except a few terrorist bombings here and there by outsiders who are killing iraqis too.
Iraqi's are most certainly fighting the American occupation. I will never understand why ppl's from "superpowers" feel as if they are not hated by anyone? Iraq is worse off under US control then under SADDAM! You see protesters in Iraq kissing pictures of Saddam, this one actually:
Unless Iraqi's get jobs, and unless they actually get security they will not accept the US. Frankly Iraqi's have been rebellious against every empire that has been forced down their throats, as well as Afghanistan. The US is no different she will eventually fail. I can't even think about Iran, nor NK.
The war in Iraq is being lost, how can u say that? Using that logic oth, the war in Afghanistan in the 80's was being won by the USSR. They also created a puppet concil, and they also created highways, and they created schools, and they also created spheres of influence and control in the cities. And in the Middle East, and Central Asia the cities are not the key. The rural areas are, and they hold the key to power. Cities like Najaf, and Saddam city are the key to power.
except a few terrorist bombings here and there by outsiders who are killing iraqis too.
Iraqi's are most certainly fighting the American occupation. I will never understand why ppl's from "superpowers" feel as if they are not hated by anyone? Iraq is worse off under US control then under SADDAM! You see protesters in Iraq kissing pictures of Saddam, this one actually:
Unless Iraqi's get jobs, and unless they actually get security they will not accept the US. Frankly Iraqi's have been rebellious against every empire that has been forced down their throats, as well as Afghanistan. The US is no different she will eventually fail. I can't even think about Iran, nor NK.
afghanis in the 80's genuinely wanted USSR outta there. the afghani people were fighting the soviets.
iraqis wellcomed US with open arms. they're not fighting US. outsiders and former baathists fight the US.
USSR came to stay.
US came to get rid of saddam, establish a gov't and leave.
Unless Iraqi's get jobs, and unless they actually get security they will not accept the US.
the economy is picking up.. the security is picking up.
these things don't happen overnight. in only 4 months since the end of major hostilities (it's the speed of light in terms of these things) look how everything has improved. imagine the progress in another 4 months. economy-wise, securit wise, gov't-wise.
you just wait and see.
the young 'uns want everything YESTERDAY
just wait and see it getting better and better
... i just realized this thread is about Iran... back to topic
iraqis wellcomed US with open arms. they're not fighting US. outsiders and former baathists fight the US.
USSR came to stay.
US came to get rid of saddam, establish a gov't and leave.
Unless Iraqi's get jobs, and unless they actually get security they will not accept the US.
the economy is picking up.. the security is picking up.
these things don't happen overnight. in only 4 months since the end of major hostilities (it's the speed of light in terms of these things) look how everything has improved. imagine the progress in another 4 months. economy-wise, securit wise, gov't-wise.
you just wait and see.
the young 'uns want everything YESTERDAY
just wait and see it getting better and better
... i just realized this thread is about Iran... back to topic
afghanis in the 80's genuinely wanted USSR outta there. the afghani people were fighting the soviets.
iraqis wellcomed US with open arms.
LMFAO, both are so half-truths it's not even funny! Everyone in Afghanistan wanted the USSR out? Not really many of Afghanistan's population were communist, Kabul was. Look at the side effect of the invasion of 1979-89 war in Afghanistan... AL QAEDA. I think the current war in Iraq and Afghanistan will create similar effects. Iraqi's have not accepted the US as anything but a imperialist conquerer. I have yet to see a pro-US rally in Iraq. But we have seen plenty of anti- US rallies. And it's only natural to have that, since it was the US who was the most ardent against the Iraqi ppl since 1991. Who suffered under the sanctions? Surely not Saddam hussein.
US came to get rid of saddam, establish a gov't and leave.
Isn't it funny, come, make disaster, then make pseudo-government.
the economy is picking up.. the security is picking up.
Again where? In Baghdad, or in Iraq? The economy is picking up for whom? The sheep herders? In Saddam city? Donde? Why are ppl protesting in the streets because there are NO JOBS? The economy has collapsed nevermind the security situation.
these things don't happen overnight. in only 4 months since the end of major hostilities (it's the speed of light in terms of these things) look how everything has improved. imagine the progress in another 4 months. economy-wise, securit wise, gov't-wise.
you just wait and see.
I believe that the US said by September most troops would be home? Funny that more are most likely to be going instead. You know reminds me of the WWI "home by Christmas" line.
iraqis wellcomed US with open arms.
LMFAO, both are so half-truths it's not even funny! Everyone in Afghanistan wanted the USSR out? Not really many of Afghanistan's population were communist, Kabul was. Look at the side effect of the invasion of 1979-89 war in Afghanistan... AL QAEDA. I think the current war in Iraq and Afghanistan will create similar effects. Iraqi's have not accepted the US as anything but a imperialist conquerer. I have yet to see a pro-US rally in Iraq. But we have seen plenty of anti- US rallies. And it's only natural to have that, since it was the US who was the most ardent against the Iraqi ppl since 1991. Who suffered under the sanctions? Surely not Saddam hussein.
US came to get rid of saddam, establish a gov't and leave.
Isn't it funny, come, make disaster, then make pseudo-government.
the economy is picking up.. the security is picking up.
Again where? In Baghdad, or in Iraq? The economy is picking up for whom? The sheep herders? In Saddam city? Donde? Why are ppl protesting in the streets because there are NO JOBS? The economy has collapsed nevermind the security situation.
these things don't happen overnight. in only 4 months since the end of major hostilities (it's the speed of light in terms of these things) look how everything has improved. imagine the progress in another 4 months. economy-wise, securit wise, gov't-wise.
you just wait and see.
I believe that the US said by September most troops would be home? Funny that more are most likely to be going instead. You know reminds me of the WWI "home by Christmas" line.
Its like that south park line
"hey man realax, Iran , Iraq whats the difference!!"
"hey man realax, Iran , Iraq whats the difference!!"
Old News Loser Guy
huh?
Sorry i guess i did make it sound like an anti-Amerika bash in that first post.
I didn't mean to make it seem that way, after all i posted the source and indeed the text listing the group of countries that had pushed for the resolution.
What i meant by "Proving to the US that something that doesn't exist when the US Wants it to exist is as easy as proving the Tooth fairy has a $400 a day Crack Cocaine Habbit" was simply reference to the Iraq war and Hans Blix as these 2 situations are frightingly similar to the ones being pushed now and the US has been the strongest leading voice in calling on this resolution and getting the rest of the countries on board.
Whilst i know it's not a US only push its been seen several of the European members that are in this resolution are pushing less aggresive and threating methods to getting this resolution through.
I just wanted to point out the blatant repetition of the same old crap (WMD Programs, proove a negative) and let in Inspectors as an alternative to war but the inspector only has x number of days to proove a negative that the entire US Army in Iraq couldnt do after taking over the place (and have in fact all but given up on).
I didn't mean to make it seem that way, after all i posted the source and indeed the text listing the group of countries that had pushed for the resolution.
What i meant by "Proving to the US that something that doesn't exist when the US Wants it to exist is as easy as proving the Tooth fairy has a $400 a day Crack Cocaine Habbit" was simply reference to the Iraq war and Hans Blix as these 2 situations are frightingly similar to the ones being pushed now and the US has been the strongest leading voice in calling on this resolution and getting the rest of the countries on board.
Whilst i know it's not a US only push its been seen several of the European members that are in this resolution are pushing less aggresive and threating methods to getting this resolution through.
I just wanted to point out the blatant repetition of the same old crap (WMD Programs, proove a negative) and let in Inspectors as an alternative to war but the inspector only has x number of days to proove a negative that the entire US Army in Iraq couldnt do after taking over the place (and have in fact all but given up on).