Dadubose,
Are the scientist that beleive in God false scientist like Jesus was a false phophet?
Statistics show (I can give you references if you need them) that scientists tend not to be religious by quite a wide margin. I’m sure that comes from the thought processes involved in the scientific method and the constant never ending need to seek evidence and proof. At least that is true of modern scientists. But there will always be a few statistical exceptions.
So you won't believe nothing without evidence?
Any rational conclusion requires evidence.
I guess not sense there is not evidence of God/Life.
Your English was off there – can you re-phrase please?
Where did the concept of remote control come from?
I give up, where did the concept come from?
What is spirit or do you believe in that?
The origin of spirit and soul comes from “breath” and from ancient observations that people who were alive had breath and when they were dead the breath was gone. Breath was considered the mystical life force of each person. We now know that breath is just a biological respiratory requirement so the superstition of spirit/soul can now be put to rest.
What is the source of all power?
Why need there be a source of all power?
the universe i guess you would say if you do what's the source of that?
Energy and matter exist and from all our observations cannot be created or destroyed, just merely interchanged.
Dig deep for me because you talking scientific and the great evolution process has put God in the science area.
God cannot be in the scientific arena since science requires evidence.
What if god exists and you are slow in your evolution experience?
Fine, then perhaps one day we will discover him, in the meantime there is nothing to suggest that he does exist and it is irrational to prematurely conclude that he does exist in the absence of any credible evidence.
Because we learn something new all the time.
Sure, but that doesn’t mean that we’ll discover any gods anytime soon.
How do you know that I am not God? What's your EVIDENCE?
I can imagine a scenario where we all evolve into super-intelligent beings and then we all merge together into a single entity and then we discover other advanced life and intelligence in the universe and all intelligence merges together into one single super intelligent being that transcends time and matter and has the knowledge and power to create another universe. But then that’s just my imagination.
So how do I know you aren’t God? You don’t fit any of the usually accepted definitions of God. But feel free to add another definition since without the constraint of any facts these definitions are only limited by human imagination.
There are so many things in the universe that is true that only a few have the evidence.
Agreed, but you can’t know they are true until you have the evidence. To claim something true beforehand is both irresponsible and irrational.
God is the evolution process.
No, God is just an imaginative concept – the word doesn’t map to anything known.
God set it all in motion.
As Hawking stated – the universe can be explained without regard to God – this doesn’t mean that God does not exist merely that he is unnecessary.
What's my evidence. Common sense
Actually common sense isn’t very common. Not so long ago it was considered common sense that the world could not be a sphere, we would simply fall off, and that it is obvious that the world must be flat. Einstein’s special relativity and quantum events also defy common sense. The truth discovered by science is often complex and difficult to understand – the typical lay person finds the explanations offered by religion much easier, but unfortunately they aren’t based on anything real or substantial.
or maybe it's because I believe what my mother said or in what my father and his parents parents said about God existing.
And if you were born in an Islamic country or a Hindu country then you would most likely adopt their fantasies instead. Religion is a cultural thing handed down through many centuries of superstitious ignorance.
But that don't make it the truth, I'm just excepting what i was taught from birth just like the language that i speak. Is language fantasy?
Understood, but language isn’t a belief so the comparison doesn’t work.
Transformation is key in the evolution process. We are constantly changing based off of what we believe.
To some degree but we also change based on the evidence we discover, and primarily scientific evidence.
Unity amongst human is a key in order for humans to further things on earth.
Achieving consensus would be ideal but unrealistic. The vast ignorant gullible masses who choose not to think will stew in their worthless religious superstitions until someone wiser and more knowledgeable tells them otherwise. Progress is left to the few with foresight, energy, and political power. But science is likely to remain separate and will slowly bring about inevitable change and the presentation of truth about the universe and ourselves. What we need though is for the politicians/religionists to stay out of science – e.g. the USA ban on stem cell research is unforgivable.
My entire point with you is that God and Life(the process, evolution, and everything within life) are one in the same.
I understand, but my response is that God is simply an unnecessary component. It doesn’t add anything useful or necessary.
You speak a different language than others. It's not wise to tell a person whats not because you have no evidence and can submit to the wisdom and knowledge of a person who speaks different from you.
I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say here.
Look in the dictionary, there are many words with many meaning. Also there are many languages that can be spoke. Lets find common ground.
Agreement on word meaning is often a key to mutual understanding. However, the ability to use logical and rational thought and to reach reasoned deductions is the greatest asset possible for mutual comprehension.
One thing on faith. Religion doesn't have a thing to do with any words in my view.
Unfortunately words are the only vehicle available to religion and they have been used to manipulate and indoctrinate gullible and ignorant people throughout the history of mankind.
It’s simple some have faith in their parents for things and their parents deliver and some have faith in God and God delivers.
Show me evidence that God has delivered something?
After experiencing one or both that's evidence for that particular person that their parents are parents by meaning and that God is God by meaning to that particular person.
Understood, but if God delivered anything or if there was any real evidence then religions would never have to insist on a need for faith – they could simply point to the evidence and say – look I told you. But they can’t do that because there is nothing there that can deliver.
Kat do you believe in the bible?
That it exists? Of course, I have numerous copies. If you mean do I believe that it contains truth then no, it is almost pure myth.
Kat do you believe in the dictionary?
I have several of those as well. Do I believe what the dictionary says? Not always, I have found many errors over the years. It is usually a good guide to how people define many words and concepts. But language, especially English, is constantly changing and one must be aware of that.
both in my opinion are reference books one to history and one to words?
Both are indeed reference books, one is about mythical imaginative fictional stories, and the other has some practical value.
Kat
