Let´s give them equal rights

[YinyangDK]

Well, what kind of moron are you to not run to the cop first?

Well, what kind of moron takes the first swing?

 

[YinyangDK]

you know what really shits me?
When people asume because of your gender that you can actually do something. I have had the flu recently and im having trouble lifting a plate let alone anything heavier, yet my partner STILL doesnt bring the shopping in because "its to heavy" to lift 4 KG of soft drink. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


And im tired of being woken up to check what the dogs are barking at, if she wants to know SHE can check it

Ok rant over

Yep.... You hit the nail right on the head there.
That is what Im talking about. When women wants equel rights ... then Why is it still us men who have to do all the things they won´t do them self?

Women! Try being a man about it and suck it up!

 

[Bells]

Yes, but reality has nothing to do with it.
It's abut our values, maaaan. We have to act as if we don't see their shortcomings, and nod, silently, when they speak, giving the impression that they're making sense.
It's about getting pussy, dude.

My grandmother always used to say that it is the people who have the least right to be condescending, who end up being the most condescending. You are a prime example. Another example?

When you are right, you are right.

Indeed.

Now Mr YinyangDK is very condescending in this whole thread. He can't help it. He views women as being somehow below himself who thinks that to be equal, he should be allowed to hit a woman if she hits him first. One must ask the question question, why would a woman want or feel the need to hit him first? The fact that he has issues is quite evident when you look at the title to this thread as a starting point.

So, can someone tell me.. Should we treat stupid people equally? But that's another thread really..

 

[YinyangDK]

My grandmother always used to say that it is the people who have the least right to be condescending, who end up being the most condescending. You are a prime example. Another example?


Indeed.

Now Mr YinyangDK is very condescending in this whole thread. He can't help it. He views women as being somehow below himself who thinks that to be equal, he should be allowed to hit a woman if she hits him first. One must ask the question question, why would a woman want or feel the need to hit him first? The fact that he has issues is quite evident when you look at the title to this thread as a starting point.

So, can someone tell me.. Should we treat stupid people equally? But that's another thread really..

Ok Bells.
First of all..... Im not the violent type. Im have not hit any one in anger ever, I do not belive in violence.
But If a man or a woman starts hitting anyone, it must be because they are too stupid to communicate in any other way.
But you seem to have a mental inequality, because what you say is that it is ok for a woman to hit a man, but it is not ok for a man to hit a woman.
Why is this?

 

[s0meguy]

Equal rights ok. But don't try to make everyone equal in terms of behavior etc. That would make the world pretty boring.

Hands up for men that like rough muscular and dominant women.

Hands up for women that are attracted to sensitive, non-muscular, submissive males.

 

[Bells]

Ok Bells.
First of all..... Im not the violent type. Im have not hit any one in anger ever, I do not belive in violence.
But If a man or a woman starts hitting anyone, it must be because they are too stupid to communicate in any other way.
But you seem to have a mental inequality, because what you say is that it is ok for a woman to hit a man, but it is not ok for a man to hit a woman.
Why is this?

Where did I say it was "ok" for a woman to hit a man or vice versa?

On the contrary, violence, domestic or otherwise, is something that I abhor.

For your information, it is not "ok" for a woman to hit a man, nor is it "ok" for a man to hit a woman. It is also illegal.

 

[Clown]

My grandmother always used to say that it is the people who have the least right to be condescending, who end up being the most condescending. You are a prime example. Another example?

Your grandmother sounds like a very intelligent wise woman. You've probably learned a lot from her.

So a man that can't take a slap isn't a pussy, but a man who gets a cop is?

More like:

A pussy who slap a man knowing that she can call the cops and he can't punch her in the face, is a pussy.

A man is left in a dilemma. Punch her in the face anyways, and go to jail, or go running to the cops like a pussy.

It's a pussy-pussy situation. The pussy always wins out.

 

[Bells]

Your grandmother sounds like a very intelligent wise woman. You've probably learned a lot from her.

She was a lovely woman. But also mean as hell when she wanted to be.

I adored her.

More like:

A pussy who slap a man knowing that she can call the cops and he can't punch her in the face, is a pussy.

A man is left in a dilemma. Punch her in the face anyways, and go to jail, or go running to the cops like a pussy.

It's a pussy-pussy situation. The pussy always wins out.

And yet, if he simply called the police and had her arrested, he would be making a point and standing up for his fellow men. Bring the fact that some women are violent against their male partners and that these men deserve protection. He could be the bigger person and call the police. Or he could lower himself to her level and hit back, making him a "pussy" just as much as she was a "pussy" for having hit him first.

So who is the bigger person? The one who simply resorts to violence because it is easier to and because he doesn't want to look like a "pussy" in front of other men? Or the one who makes a stand and a point by throwing her arse in jail?

 

[Clown]

She was a lovely woman. But also mean as hell when she wanted to be.

I adored her.

She sounds adorable.

And yet, if he simply called the police and had her arrested, he would be making a point and standing up for his fellow men.

By being a pussy.

Bring the fact that some women are violent against their male partners and that these men deserve protection. He could be the bigger person and call the police. Or he could lower himself to her level and hit back, making him a "pussy" just as much as she was a "pussy" for having hit him first.

Or he could punch her in the face, and be an even bigger person by defending himself against an inferior.

So who is the bigger person? The one who simply resorts to violence because it is easier to and because he doesn't want to look like a "pussy" in front of other men? Or the one who makes a stand and a point by throwing her arse in jail?

I think the question is, what does someone do when confronted by an inferior?
The only option, you are suggesting, is to turn into a little baby crying for protection to the authorities.

Pussyness all around.

This should work in international affairs.
The U.S. attacks Iraq, for no apparent reasonable reason.
Iraq should take it, surrender, and then go crying to the United Nations.

You're onto something.
Your grandma was a genius.

Let's investigate another scenario.
A teenage punk comes and kicks you in the ass, with no provocation.
You, run away to find a police officer.
Brilliant!!

 

[Bells]

She sounds adorable.

She was. To me.

By being a pussy.

So you'd resort to violence. I wonder, how well would you go in jail? Hope that butt of yours is tight, dear...

Or he could punch her in the face, and be an even bigger person by defending himself against an inferior.

Or he could simply slap her in her face. Self defence and reasonable amount of force, blah blah blah.

But who would be the inferior? The guy who's about to get his butt 'loved' in jail, or the system that is about to place him in jail? I'd imagine the superior individual is the one who reports it to the police and makes a stand.

I think the question is, what does someone do when confronted by an inferior?
The only option, you are suggesting, is to turn into a little baby crying for protection to the authorities.

Heh.

If someone comes at you with a stick, you don't use a bazooka to defend yourself.

It is not the "only" option. You can simply defend yourself in a reasonable manner as the situation warrants. Refer to above about the bazooka against the stick.

But then, there is the argument that men suffer in silence in situations where the are abused by their spouse or partner in the home and never report it. I guess it is prevailing attitudes (such as the one you espouse) that he would be a "pussy" if he did that keeps him from reporting his abuse.

This should work in international affairs.
The U.S. attacks Iraq, for no apparent reasonable reason.
Iraq should take it, surrender, and then go crying to the United Nations.

Self defence.

They would have reasonable grounds for defending themselves against their aggressor and go running to the UN. Again, they can only respond with reasonable force as the situation warrants. Remember the bazooka and the stick comment above.

You're onto something.
Your grandma was a genius.

That she was.

My grandmother would have beaten anyone, who so much as stepped on her toe on the bus, with her walking stick. She was not exactly a gentle soul. Loving and loyal to her loved one's, but mean as hell when she wanted to be to everyone else.

I miss her terribly.:bawl:

Let's investigate another scenario.
A teenage punk comes and kicks you in the ass, with no provocation.
You, run away to find a police officer.
Brilliant!!

Silly. You're taking this to another level. No. If some teenage twat comes and kicks me in my arse, I'd turn around and kick him back. Then I'd run and go and find a police officer.

 

[Orleander]

Well, what kind of moron takes the first swing?

without a doubt a stupid one. But how can you say a person is discriminated against by the law if they never call the law in the first place. :shrug: And if a man is called a pussy by other men for doing so, aren't those men doingthe discriminating. The men are teaching younger generations to not call the cops.

 

[Clown]

She was. To me.

And isn't that enough?

So you'd resort to violence. I wonder, how well would you go in jail? Hope that butt of yours is tight, dear...

And that's why women mouth off.

Or he could simply slap her in her face. Self defence and reasonable amount of force, blah blah blah.

Are you sure.
Not where I'm from.

But who would be the inferior? The guy who's about to get his butt 'loved' in jail, or the system that is about to place him in jail? I'd imagine the superior individual is the one who reports it to the police and makes a stand.

The superior, then, is the sissy.
Ah world, how you mame us.

If someone comes at you with a stick, you don't use a bazooka to defend yourself.

Are those the rules?
Where did you read them?

It is not the "only" option. You can simply defend yourself in a reasonable manner as the situation warrants. Refer to above about the bazooka against the stick.

Can I use a paper towel to defend myself?
It's pretty soft.

But then, there is the argument that men suffer in silence in situations where the are abused by their spouse or partner in the home and never report it. I guess it is prevailing attitudes (such as the one you espouse) that he would be a "pussy" if he did that keeps him from reporting his abuse.

It's more of a 'you can't live with them; you can't beat the shit out of them' situation.

Self defence.

I let the police do my self defending.
I might kill someone and then spend money and years trying to get out of it.

They would have reasonable grounds for defending themselves against their aggressor and go running to the UN. Again, they can only respond with reasonable force as the situation warrants. Remember the bazooka and the stick comment above.

I never realized how well structured violent activities have become.
Am I alowed pulling hair?

My grandmother would have beaten anyone, who so much as stepped on her toe on the bus, with her walking stick. She was not exactly a gentle soul. Loving and loyal to her loved one's, but mean as hell when she wanted to be to everyone else.

She sounds like a magnificent woman. I bet withuot the police there she would survive, what?, two blocks with that attitude and a walking stick as her only weapon.

I miss her terribly.:bawl:

Mee too.

Silly. You're taking this to another level. No. If some teenage twat comes and kicks me in my arse, I'd turn around and kick him back. Then I'd run and go and find a police officer.

That's only because you have bigger balls than I do. I think you got those from grandma.
And would the teenager just sit there and wait? Would you round-house kick him, then?
I love make belief scenarios?

 

[visceral_instinct]

Sounds like someone is a little upset. What happened? If I punched someone in the face I wouldn't be mad if they punched me back. You shouldn't go around hitting people though.

Agreed. All the misogyny in here does my fuckin' head in. Some of these stupid cunts seems to think that wanting equal rights is horribly unreasonable and that if you're anything other than pregnant and in the kitchen, you're a man-hater who wants to go around cutting off penises.

And you'll be treated no less, by me.

I like it when women know what they are.

Go. Get. Raped.

you know what really shits me?
When people asume because of your gender that you can actually do something. I have had the flu recently and im having trouble lifting a plate let alone anything heavier, yet my partner STILL doesnt bring the shopping in because "its to heavy" to lift 4 KG of soft drink. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Ack....women like that should be shot for being a disgrace to their sex

Hands up for women that are attracted to sensitive, non-muscular, submissive males.

Indeed. Vlech. Being equal doesn't mean being exactly the same.

 

[Varda]

It is ok to be treated as different if thats the kind of person you are..... But if you like being treated different because of your genter then you are a hypocrit.

a hypocrit?

I don't have a penis
I don't produce testosterone
I don't have a steady hormonal level for most of my life


I am different

 

[MetaKron]

This kind of conflict often happens because women get annoying and excuse it, citing their hormones or female privilege, then they beat the hell out of men who annoy them.

 

[CharonZ]

[Tongue in cheek]

I don't have a penis

Well, you do have a homologue, at least (and size does not matter, does it?)

I don't produce testosterone

Actually, you do. The overall level is somewhat lower and much of it is converted to estradiol (the major estrogen), but you do produce quite a significant amount of it.

I don't have a steady hormonal level for most of my life

Oh well, actually no one really has. Of course in human females the changes appear to be greater than in males, yet I recall an older study suggesting that in males certain cycles in steroids (shorter than in female and I think also less pronounced) have been observed. In any case in every human the hormonal levels change with age, so no steadiness here, either.

 

[Varda]

[Tongue in cheek]


Well, you do have a homologue, at least (and size does not matter, does it?)


Actually, you do. The overall level is somewhat lower and much of it is converted to estradiol (the major estrogen), but you do produce quite a significant amount of it.


Oh well, actually no one really has. Of course in human females the changes appear to be greater than in males, yet I recall an older study suggesting that in males certain cycles in steroids (shorter than in female and I think also less pronounced) have been observed. In any case in every human the hormonal levels change with age, so no steadiness here, either.

ok, my penis is tiny and I make tiny amounts of testosterone, what makes it a lot more difficult to become huge and muscular, and my mood changes with my cycle

I don't make it a point to struggle against my nature so I can be seen as strong

I am strong in other ways

 

[CharonZ]

Actually my wife has a passable left hook.

 

[Varda]

it's all about technique

 

[lepustimidus]

Bells:

And yet, if he simply called the police and had her arrested,

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HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Oh goodness me. Good joke, Bells. Good joke.