OFF TOPIC
You said it would have been logical for the black kid to stop running from the stranger following him in his car and then on foot to answer a few questions.
Let's examine that statement-
One: I admit I made an assumption. I'm not sure whether it was mine or from an article I had read at this point. Maybe you forgot where I was asking about his SECURITY jacket. So many words exchanged and so many posts later and I've read so many articles at this point...
However, I've had to eat some crow and for this reason- done a lot more research on the topic.
Zimmerman was on his way to the store- not on patrol. This changes the premise and shows that I was in error to think that.
Easy huh?
We've been too busy fighting about Hypotheticals and your profiling of me to cover this.
You completely disregarded this question.
On the contrary- I answered it in post number 433.
It was that answer that led to the entire fracas about "hypotheticals" and such.
Two scenarios with one sole aggressor.
When you change such standards or even rules and say it would have been "logical for the black kid" to do something so different to what you'd advise any other child, it is racist. And that is why it was racist.
This is a completely inaccurate portrayal of what I said.
Your version of it is an absurd version. Agreed.
But I never said that a black kid would be held to a different standard at all!
I said "black kid" because Trayvon was black. No other reason whatsoever.
Nor was he held to a different standard.
Let's see - I said he had every right to walk down that street. I even stated my own experiences- Which you employed that tactic of then seizing upon that to question my character as a person; not my ideas.
That was offensive.
Yes, I would teach my son to stop and answer questions from authority- Not to run away from them. I have also taught my son to avoid strangers and if he feels threatened to run.
I have learned that Zimmerman was on his way to the store- Not on patrol wearing a security jacket.
That being said, given what I understand of the case
NOW, I believe my son would RUN TOO.
And I would support his decision.
I had no idea you thought that I was saying a black kid should just answer questions and a different child should not. Had I had any clue you thought such a thing, I would have clarified it for you.
All you did was quote One sentence, the sentence saying "Logically a black kid should answer..." Over and over calling it Racist. I asked you why it's 'racist' several times and you never told me what you just said in that post. Would do you expect, Bells?
By the way---- My son is not white, Bells.
Due to your assumptions of your own, quote mining and "seeking of a vendetta" against the
Profiling you filed me under, you never stopped to consider that enlightening me as to the nature of the situation might cause me to have a different viewpoint, did it?
You treat it as if I must maintain One Viewpoint and fight it to the death as you do.
Not at all, if I'm shown I'm wrong- I'm wrong. I might even resist at first... but I won't slip into denial of the evidence and I have demonstrated this time and time and time again.
I will change my support of a position if convinced it's best.
In trying to get out of answering the question as to whether you would have applied such a standard to your own kid(s) that you felt was so "logical for the black kid", you then pretty much told me that I could not be unbiased or impartial in this because you felt I was "black".
Inaccurate. I did not try to get out of answering anything- I thought I had answered it.
And that led to the whole fracas about Hypotheticals, where your anger dictated your posts and responses.
I asked you about it for one reason and one reason alone- The profiling you have been doing, your attitudes and behavior,
all suggest that you have a very personal bias on the topic.
Since you have finally chosen to enlighten me as to your "Double Standard" misunderstanding- I see that I was Wrong.
At the time, I felt that your anger stemmed from a Very Personal Bias, not based on your race, But how you identify yourself. Your extreme hostility and defensiveness suggested such.
This means that I owe you an apology. And words, as apologies, are always weak- But it is what it is. Had you showed self control, better behavior and explained your perceptions of what I was trying to convey-instead of flying off the the handle- This all could have very easily been avoided.
I apologize, Bells, for my insensitive remarks. And take that for what it is worth; I do not make apologies insincerely, nor lightly.
I must be convinced I was in error to make one and I feel convinced in spite of your hostility.
Imagine how offensive you were being, calling me a racist due to your perceptions of what I had actually said.
So you can stop trying to now claim that my lack of impartiality is because of my behaviour, when you clearly said that I am touchy and senstitive to it because of my colour..
I am biased on topics of Lakota politics and I Know It.
I cannot talk on those topics without feeling deep rooted resentment and anger. So I avoid them.
It's not color or even race- It's identity and how we defend it.
I was very clear and explicit.
I do not believe that you were at all.
Given that my assumptions and your inability to read my mind, it is Plausible that you would assume something as well.
My faulty assumption was that Zimmerman was an authority.
We have neighborhood watch- they all have Black SECURITY jackets and Maglights. None are ever armed, the maglight is enough... But all are easily visibly identifiable.
That is a failure on my part, assuming it is the same there.