By God you like the word infidel so much. You remind me of Mel Gibson in that South Park episode, if you replace his love for torture and pain by some kind of "inferior-infidel-complex" or something. The reason Sam argued the way she did is becuase the threat title is "Palestinian axes children". Then we got posts of how its cruel and typical of the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. Why should we sit by and watch other people call us all of that while they were cheering on the destruction in Gaza and the killing of 100s of innocent people, many among them children?
Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.
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By God you like the word infidel so much. You remind me of Mel Gibson in that South Park episode, if you replace his love for torture and pain by some kind of "inferior-infidel-complex" or something. The reason Sam argued the way she did is becuase the threat title is "Palestinian axes children". Then we got posts of how its cruel and typical of the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. Why should we sit by and watch other people call us all of that while they were cheering on the destruction in Gaza and the killing of 100s of innocent people, many among them children?
Israel wasn't promised to others, the idea was a partition. Sure, some people would have to move (on both sides). Why do you single out Jewish terrorism? The violence was mutual.
Just following the examples set by those champions of unbiased commenting above
The piece of land now known as Israel was promised to the Arabs for their help in defeating the Turks. They were promised self-determination and that land. But after they had helped, the British and French carved up that piece of land. Ever since then the Arabs have not trusted the West. Lawrence of Arabia ring a bell?
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Because Jewish terrorism was the intent to create a religious state by a minority of immigrants with the intention of dispossessing the inhabitants of the land. The Bar-Giora was not defending itself, it was arming itself and training to remove the Arabs to take the land. They were religious fanatics who should have been shot for their extremism.
Someone should look into the camps run by B'nai B'rith. 10 to 1 they are the breeding ground for the fanaticism that grips Jews who leave their countries of birth to dispossess even more Palestinians. From what I have heard and read they brainwash children into Zionism for the entire period of childhood.
Someone should look into the camps run by B'nai B'rith. 10 to 1 they are the breeding ground for the fanaticism that grips Jews who leave their countries of birth to dispossess even more Palestinians. From what I have heard and read they brainwash children into Zionism for the entire period of childhood.
And Arab terrorism was seeking to achieve the same thing, nationalist movements started to be common around that time. Jews that move to Israel have nothing to do with Palestinians. Palestinians dispossessed themselves for the most part.
you can't remove something that never existed. Countries have no inherent right to exist.
Correction: Jews that move to Palestine have nothing to do with Palestine. They have very little to do with Judaism too. Mostly, they are practising a form of neosemitism which is idolatory by all Jewish standards.
There own creation. So the jewish trying to create their own country through force and the near 90% of the arabspopulation fleeing from the inpending war is a small percentage of arabs fleeing violence of their own creation. Con you say bigotry.
Whatever, there is no Palestine.
None of your business.
No they didn't try and kill the jews they tried to prevent the Illegal creation of Israel.
Um first so you believe the jews needed their own country because of violence related to them trying to create their own country and denying 70% of the population their right to self determination.? secondly it was political.
Yep the arab got fucked by the Jews( ie the Israelis. The arabs Israelis weren't for the annexation of Palestinain land), Jordanians, and Egyptians all illegally annexed Palestinian land. The Palestinians shouldn't of had to give up any land for the wants of others. Something you seem intellectually incapable of understanding.
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because the jewish terrorism was allowed to run far more unchecked and with less repercussions for the jews in palestine than arab terrorism and arabs.
Nice spider except dispossessing your self is literally an impossibility.
You would think so, but they managed to do it, influenced by surrounding Arab nations that only encouraged them to do so.
No they needed their own country because of Arabic violence that wasn't necessarily a reaction to Zionism. The Arabs have every right to self-determination in their own country, the creation of which they have delayed for 50 or more years.
No they didn't Your precious fucking Israel, Jordan, and Egypt dispossessed them. By definition you cannot dispossess your self. You can start a sequence of events that leads up to your dispossession but you cannot dispossess yourself.
No they never needed ytheir own country. They WANTED their own country. The was very little violence before the jews decided to try and preempt the palestinains as a whole.
You truly are mentally fucked up. tell me how are they supposed to create their own country when Israel has annexed it all? Simple they can't you bigot. I'm sorry your to culturally brainwashed to deal with the simple fact that Israel was the main opponent to Palestinian self determination.
You wouldn't understand the need to create Israel, since you conveniently ignore the recent history of the Jews, and the anti-semitism that exists to this day. The Arabs, through violence, created their empires which protected them, and so remain ignorant of the world events that affected most modern people. The Arab reaction to Jewish immigration was not unlike the reaction in the US to Italian or Irish immigrants. They faced the same discrimination and violence, only our constitution protected them. The Jews needed the same kind of laws, and the only way to get that was to form a state.
There was no need to create Israel spider that is what YOU need to understand and you will probably never get it because your bigotry is to culturally ingrained. Your to damn fucking stupid to get it through you thick skull that violence over your action isn't reason to go ahead with them. If the jewish immigrants had been willing to work side by side with the resident arab population in the creation of a mutual Palestinian state none of the violence and hatred would have happened.
I suggest you go take a class on rewconizing and dealing with bigotry because you are in dire need of it.
Whoa. the delusions involved in this are awe inspiring. Firstly their is a big difference between moving to a place to become part of it( the Italians and Irish) and moving to a place with intent to take control of it at the expense of the resident population( the jews. sorry spider its impossible to want to take control of a region without it being at the expense of the resident population unless your doing it with the consent of the resident population.) I'm sorry Spider but you don't get to want to deny people their rights and not take flak for it. If the jews hadn't tried to preempt the arabs they probably would have been welcomed just like they were previously as the hard working and scholarly people they are.
Nonsense. I agree that if circumstances were different, perhaps the Jews and Arabs would get along, but it wasn't happening. Anyway, you look at the strife between different factions of Arabs, between Arabs and Christians in Lebanon, between Arabs and minority groups of all kinds, and you begin to see that it has nothing to do specifically with Jews.
I want the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians to have their own country, for the settlements and occupation to end, for the fanatics on both sides to moderate themselves, but it's unrealistic to expect Jews to give up what they have built, what they have worked for and rightfully invested in. The country isn't what it was before independence. What they want to return to doesn't exist anymore. The Jews invested in the land, creating new farms, buildings, towns, cities, and that makes it theirs. It's got nothing to do with hating Arabs.
I want the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians to have their own country, for the settlements and occupation to end, for the fanatics on both sides to moderate themselves, but it's unrealistic to expect Jews to give up what they have built, what they have worked for and rightfully invested in. The country isn't what it was before independence. What they want to return to doesn't exist anymore. The Jews invested in the land, creating new farms, buildings, towns, cities, and that makes it theirs. It's got nothing to do with hating Arabs.
The jews made zero attempt to get along with the arabs when they moved their from 1850's on. You have to make the attempt before you write it off.
You say that yet you shit on the very ideas that would let it happen. Like saying Israel shouldn't have to give up any land. Gaza and the west bank must be connected for peace to be real because un less that happens it dooms the future Palestinian state to puppethood.
That's not going to happen until the people have a vested interest in stopping them. right now neither side has any interest in stopping them.
This right here shows the bigotry. I know you don't see it as such but please try and take the step back and see how it comes across to someone who is unbiased or worse to the pro-Palestinian people. This here is showing one of the greatest hurdles to peace not paying attention to how things look like to the other side. Why is it unrealistic to ask the Israelis to give that up when that is exactly what they didn't even bother to ask the Palestinians to do.
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Now prove every thing with citation that you have just spouted off on, you can't even get the dates right for the Muslim Invasion of India, and the fact that Tamerlane invaded, attacked, and destroyed, a Muslim Sultan, one, Nasir-u Din Mehmud, in Delhi because the Muslim Sultan was having problems and was a easy target of opportunity, did you manage to understand that about Tamerlanes invasion of India?
Informed about civil war in India, Timur began a trek starting in 1398 to invade the reigning Sultan Nasir-u Din Mehmud of the Tughlaq Dynasty in the north Indian city of Delhi, Timur continue his relentless approach to Delhi, arriving in 1398 to combat the armies of Sultan Mehmud, already weakened by an internal battle for ascension within the royal family.
Again we have Muslims cutting the throat of another Muslims for fun and profit.
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