Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

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So any weapon dropped on Gaza is a white phosphorous weapon, such is the suggestion from this propaganda.

Not any weapons obviously, but a lot of them for sure. But that does not suit you as a pro-Jewish supporter, does it? ;) And gaza strip is not that big, so lots of white phosphorous will wipe out the Palestinians just as the Israelis intend to.
 
its war time, man. I am on the side of Palestine. Why be depressed all the time, might as well have some fun from time to time.

It doesn't matter. It still a life taken and it shouldn't be celebrated.The death of anyone diminishes us all.
 
I saw it live on al Jazeera.

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Thats white phosphorus clouds over a populated urban area

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Actually didn't you mean one chunk at a time?

Buffalo I am against killing children or hurting them in any way, even in war. So you purposely citing that just so that everyone here sees that he said children to pin me down to dirt, will not work. I purposely ommitted "children" being included there.

children both Jewish and Palestinian need to be protected and cared for.
 
Yup, this is what the Beit Lahiya school looked like before the bombing.

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It was converted into a shelter on 11th January

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I saw it live on al Jazeera.

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Thats white phosphorus clouds over a populated urban area

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um SAM just because that's smoke doesn't mean the WP was used as a chemical weapon. WP smoke shells throw of a lot of smoke its kind of the point of a smoke shell.
 
um SAM just because that's smoke doesn't mean the WP was used as a chemical weapon. WP smoke shells throw of a lot of smoke its kind of the point of a smoke shell.

that is white phosphorous allright. I have seen footage of it used in Iraq north against the kurds.
 
I've only ever seen one response from an Israeli to WP that showed any sign of a conscience

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/t...gaza-phase-3-idf-marches-into-hell-gaza-city/

I strongly disagree that this incident removes any rights Israel had to exist. It's only noticed because it's an exception to an otherwise relatively restrained response to militants who should be killed without mercy. The other side wouldn't hesitate to target schools, they do so daily.
 
relatively restrained response to militants

You mean the non-Jews who were kicked out of their homes and put in a ghetto for the third generation going and are starved and killed because they did not accept the "Jewish Right" to a state of their own on Palestinian land?

I recall a certain other group who did not accept such ethnonational socialism and were considered a threat to society as well.

Of course when the Jews do it, its not ethno-theocentric apartheid. Its a necessity. They are forced to create a state for Jews, where Jews get automatic citizenship while indigenous peoples are made into refugees. Because they are a "demographic threat" to the Jewish state. Whatever that means.

If anyone tries to do that to Jews, you'd never hear the end of it.

Just see the difference in discussion here, on the alleged killing by a Palestinian of one Jewish child. Vs the actual massacre of hundreds of Palestinian children and the mutilation of hundreds more.
 
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This is still going on?

Well, you know if the Palestinian leaders would park those kids and women ontop of military target or right next to artillery pieces then perhaps they wouldn;t have died. Israelis at least come out and face you without using human sheilds, meanwhile the palestinians hide among the civillians.

After a while of this even the most patient of nations would just say screw it and start taking out the targets.

Funny stuff. Maybe, just maybe, those people killed inside buildings, were, wait for it.... civilians! :rolleyes: This is another piece of Israeli propaganda, that somehow these "cowards" hide behind women and children.

The IDF warned the Palestinians that war was coming and if they didn't want to be in it, they should leave. Those that didn't leave obviously wanted to be in it.

The Palestinians knew for weeks that the troops were coming.

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They had nowhere to go dipshit. Gaza is blockaded. Its locked from all sides. They cant go anywhere and they only have their homes, if at all. Maybe they tried to appeal to the better side of the Israelis by going to the roof and waving flags and basically begging them not to destroy the only thing they have left?

Also, from now on, you dont get go on about how Muslims supposedly delight in killing since you delight much much more in the killings of Arabs and Muslims. As long as you cant condemn the IDF, do not ask us to condemn anyone else. Understand?

Do you know what war is, SAM? I mean, do you have even a clue about the concepts of a declared war? Do you think that it's always pretty, with lots of flowers and soft pom-poms?

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Well, if you want to go down that road, then conventional war prescribes the use of tactical cover :rolleyes:

So you think that we should simply believe them and convict the entire IDF without benefit of due process of the law?

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Isnt that what you do every single time theres a crime committed by an alleged Muslim or Palestinian?

I'm not surprised that you'd attempt to absolve Islamists and brown people of all responsibility.

Nice to see my thinking about you is being supported by you bringing in race as well as religion now.

And they are condemned for doing so by the American population, and punished by the American justice system. On the other hand, Muslims will attempt to defend or mitigate murderous behaviour perpetrated by their fellow Muslims.

Unless Americans are kicked out of their country then undergo all that the Palestinians have undergone, there is no comparison between the two. You could not possibly imagine what these people are going through, yet feel compelled to condemn them. If a criminal is caught in a Muslim country, he is punished, and this single event has been condemned by me and the other Muslims on here.

This is precisely why we cannot co-exist, S.A.M. Mainstream Islam consists of people like you, Diamond and Arsalan, who close ranks whenever another Muslim fucks up. They will attempt to mitigate, excuse or blame their behaviour on someone else (usually the West), and then rattle on about the West, as if any of the West's own fuck ups justify the barbarism exhibited by your Islamic comrades. In your eyes, it's you and your fellow Muslims vs. all us non-Muslims. What do they call it... "Pan-Islamism"?

Actually they call it you being a retard. Because whenever a Muslim does something you expect us to condemn immediately and without remorse. That may be fine, and it is something we do, but when we then raise the point about why this took place and look at the cruelty inflicted on the Palestinians by Israel, suddenly wea re condoning this behaviour and that is why we "canot co-exist". Keeping in mind your previous quip about race, the picture is becoming clearer. Somehow, I think you are someone who finds Churchills "Arabs are dogs" argument convincing

S.A.M, I'd like to hear your response on this one:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1075992.html

Those settlers were trying to kill innocent school girls and the Israeli law dealt with them properly. Unfortunately, we don't see such things on the other side.

because you dont read Arabic or because the Israelis carry out revenge attacks killing them?

I wonder if the Muslims on this forum are going to condemn the axe-wielding Palestinian any time soon?

Keep waiting dipshit. We had nothing to do with this guy and he isnt related to us.

No, what I am sayng is that I would never let my house be a target. Why would they target a house with mo military value, Unless of course they were HAMAS. If you will notice all civilized nations, including Israel, target only military targets and they use precision weapons. The fact that HAMAS parks innoccent civillians atop military targets is reprehensible and not the fault of the Israelis.

Are you kidding? Maybe at the beginning of the last century this was true, however you should look at how wars are fought now. Pinpoint accurate weapons guided by the most advanced technology used to strike military and infrastructure with minimal collateral damage.

What if they put a cage around your house, locked you in from all sides, dropped some leaflets warning you to run then bombed you? Or locked in your neighbourhood? How is it your fault that your house or neighbourhood is the target because it is locked in?

this small piece of land causing all this trouble. to me it just seems that another different tribe is not wanted there. i cannot tell a country that they cannot have all the inhabitants being the same religion but as far as i know that is how it is in Muslim countries.

Wrong. Fact is that Jews, Muslims and Christians lived together in what used to be that land. This trouble we are dealing with now started since the Zionists terrorised the British and Arabs away. Ofcourse, the history of that land goes some way back.

By his look, language, smell.

The real intentions of the people who keep bashing Arabs and Muslims are becoming more and more clear...
 
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You mean the non-Jews who were kicked out of their homes and put in a ghetto for the third generation going and are starved and killed because they did not accept the "Jewish Right" to a state of their own on Palestinian land?

I recall a certain other group who did not accept such ethnonational socialism and were considered a threat to society as well.

Of course when the Jews do it, its not ethno-theocentric apartheid. Its a necessity. They are forced to create a state for Jews, where Jews get automatic citizenship while indigenous peoples are made into refugees. Because they are a "demographic threat" to the Jewish state. Whatever that means.

If anyone tries to do that to Jews, you'd never hear the end of it.

Just see the difference in discussion here, on the alleged killing by a Palestinian of one Jewish child. Vs the actual massacre of hundreds of Palestinian children and the mutilation of hundreds more.

You mean the small percentage of Arabs who fled the violence of their own creation and were then used as pawns by Arab nations motivated by nothing more than anti-semitism and the inherent arrogance of Islam? Yeah, those guys.
 
You mean the small percentage of Arabs who fled the violence of their own creation and were then used as pawns by Arab nations motivated by nothing more than anti-semitism and the inherent arrogance of Islam? Yeah, those guys.

Violence of their own creation? Oh, you mean the terrorist bombings and killings carried out by the Zionists against the British and Arabs which caused the British to run and the Arabs to be killed and kicked out.
 
Violence of their own creation? Oh, you mean the terrorist bombings and killings carried out by the Zionists against the British and Arabs which caused the British to run and the Arabs to be killed and kicked out.

I was talking about the 5 or 6 Arab nations that decided to kill the Jews instead of share the land. Sure, there was Jewish terrorism and Arab terrorism, that's why they needed their own lands, it was driven by religion. Instead, the Arabs got a fraction of what they would have got, and instead got 50 years of being used as pawns for Islam.
 
You mean the small percentage of Arabs who fled the violence of their own creation and were then used as pawns by Arab nations motivated by nothing more than anti-semitism and the inherent arrogance of Islam? Yeah, those guys.

Of their own creation? So if Arabs enter Israel to form a Muslim state and the Jews fight back, whose fault would you call it? I'm still waiting to hear who the Arab militias were in 1907
 
I was talking about the 5 or 6 Arab nations that decided to kill the Jews instead of share the land. Sure, there was Jewish terrorism and Arab terrorism, that's why they needed their own lands, it was driven by religion. Instead, the Arabs got a fraction of what they would have got, and instead got 50 years of being used as pawns for Islam.

Actually, it was Jewish terrorism that led to Israels creation. Too bad the British got scared instead of clamping down on that kind of terrorism. I dont think that the war that broke out after the creation of Israel was specifically to wipe out Jews. The drive seems to be the creation of a state on a piece of land that was promised to others and had others living on there.
 
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