No, you've got it backwards. "Palestine" is a misappropriated namesake of the romanized name "Philistines", who were the ones slaughtered by the donkeys jaw. Sheesh :shrug:
Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict
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No, you've got it backwards. "Palestine" is a misappropriated namesake of the romanized name "Philistines", who were the ones slaughtered by the donkeys jaw. Sheesh :shrug:
its not misappropriated. its a cognate.
Only an idiot would think so.
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So yeah.. The flotilla lovin' that keeps on giving..
Some updates on the flotilla probe that we were told would be impartial. Thus far we have a judge who is threatening to resign unless he is able to actually probe the events that led to the deaths of 9 people and thus far we have the Government refusing to let any of the soldiers involved be questioned and limitting the probe..
Okay...
So the soldiers involved won't be questioned because they are afraid that soldiers may be reluctant to go on missions and be punished or penalised if things go wrong? One would imagine that if a soldier stuffed up and the result was deaths of innocent people, said soldier should be penalised.. But it seems Barak wants to make sure that soldiers can carry on with their 'jobs' without fear of being penalised if they stuff up. Carrying on:
A fair call.. However:
Some updates on the flotilla probe that we were told would be impartial. Thus far we have a judge who is threatening to resign unless he is able to actually probe the events that led to the deaths of 9 people and thus far we have the Government refusing to let any of the soldiers involved be questioned and limitting the probe..
Okay...
So the soldiers involved won't be questioned because they are afraid that soldiers may be reluctant to go on missions and be punished or penalised if things go wrong? One would imagine that if a soldier stuffed up and the result was deaths of innocent people, said soldier should be penalised.. But it seems Barak wants to make sure that soldiers can carry on with their 'jobs' without fear of being penalised if they stuff up. Carrying on:
A fair call.. However:
Unfortunatley the goodwill of the Government won't allow them to investigate it fully.
Of course the IDF won't allow their military to be betrayed!!! Who do you think they are? The United States? Remember when US Soldiers got busted for following orders? That doesn't make me hate the military, that makes me hate the humanitarians.
The whole world would be better if everyone was in a constant world war which was mandatory for all people under 22 to attend. It would train them.
The whole world would be better if everyone was in a constant world war which was mandatory for all people under 22 to attend. It would train them.
No only an idiot would think other wise.
I assume by betrayed you mean held accountable?
no the US doesn't hold up war criminals and terrorists as heroes.
No because it didn't happen. also the following orders defense has been nullified as a defense since the nuremburg tribunals. I guess you think all those nazis should have gotten off because they were only following orders
Why does this not surprise me. You applaud violent thugs. but hate people who want to help others
PJ: the hands of the US - and about every other country - are not exactly clean internationally.
not saying they are but at least we ashamed of ours for the most part.
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You're so silly pjdude, how come you think these things? I bet WoW rotted your brain to mush. A lot of NAZIs following orders, DID GO FREE.I assume by betrayed you mean held accountable? no the US doesn't hold up war criminals and terrorists as heroes. No because it didn't happen. also the following orders defense has been nullified as a defense since the nuremburg tribunals. I guess you think all those nazis should have gotten off because they were only following orders
http://www.examiner.com/x-25466-DC-...SEALs-capture-Fallujah-killer--SEALs-arrested
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Bells
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So you think it is acceptable to not investigate members of its armed forces when things go wrong?
You don't think soldiers should be held accountable for bad deeds in uniform?
Okay then.
So much for a fair and partial investigation, eh Cheski.
Internally, of course. Externally, rarely. Infiltrating the blockade was an act of aggression, which means the audit is internal for Israel...fact of the matter is the rest of the world has no rights in the matter. Even if it wasn't an act of aggression it was still under the order of the IDF. No matter how much Turkey, Iran, Phalecstine, France, and the US cry for an open investigation...they have no rights in the matter. If they want an audit they'll have to invade and capture them, luckily the IDF made their identities anonymous : )
Bells
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Firstly, they hadn't infiltrated the blockade when the IDF attacked them. So the only act of aggression in that instance comes from the IDF when they stormed the ships. Secondly, in the majority of civilised countries, when an action like that on the IDF occurs and deaths of civilians is the result, it is normal for the soldiers involved to be questioned.
LOL Stop being wrong all the time!!! They were question...privately. That way no one can take revenge.
They communicated their intentions to break the blockade, and that's enough probable cause.
Consider your POS state killed Turkish and American citizens I'd say they have they have all the right in the world to demand an open investigation. and their is no need to not release their names. unlike ISrael none of those states have a history of kidnapping foriegn people to do what ever with them.
Haha Turkey and the US don't kidnap people. Nonsense aside Israel has no point of sale. I don't disagree, they can demand anything they want, they just won't get it because it's a stupid request.
Firstly, allow me to clarify a couple of important points on this matter:
Item A:
The US is on Israel's side.
Item B:
We have the bombs.
Secondly, it is interesting how the people who are aligned against Israel have chosen to try to portray the flotilla raid as some kind of killing spree by the IDF.
In the picture shown above, the fellow who is lying on his back is an IDF soldier who has clearly been met with violence. Investigations have shown that the violence was initiated by the IHH activists, and the incident actually started out as a security inspection. For context, imagine if someone resisted an inspection by the US Coast Guard by shooting at them with guns. When you think of it that way, it does seem kind of silly to condemn the IDF for actions that we would expect out of our own armed servicemen, but I am afraid that most of my fellow Americans have their heads too far up their asses to think beyond their own entrenched opinions.
And -->here<-- is an article on what kind of organization IHH really is. That is, they are a "charity" organization that is there to feed the starving murdering bastards in Gaza Strip. Although the IHH has been engaged in laudable endeavors, their flotilla was not planned to be a peaceful endeavor at all.
Item A:
Item B:
Secondly, it is interesting how the people who are aligned against Israel have chosen to try to portray the flotilla raid as some kind of killing spree by the IDF.
In the picture shown above, the fellow who is lying on his back is an IDF soldier who has clearly been met with violence. Investigations have shown that the violence was initiated by the IHH activists, and the incident actually started out as a security inspection. For context, imagine if someone resisted an inspection by the US Coast Guard by shooting at them with guns. When you think of it that way, it does seem kind of silly to condemn the IDF for actions that we would expect out of our own armed servicemen, but I am afraid that most of my fellow Americans have their heads too far up their asses to think beyond their own entrenched opinions.
And -->here<-- is an article on what kind of organization IHH really is. That is, they are a "charity" organization that is there to feed the starving murdering bastards in Gaza Strip. Although the IHH has been engaged in laudable endeavors, their flotilla was not planned to be a peaceful endeavor at all.
When you shut the fuck up.Bells said:
not according to Israel international law figures
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/israel-inadvertently-admits-it-broke-law-in-raiding-flotilla.html
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