Islam, the Moon God Religion

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Vienna

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MOSQUES - MOON GOD TEMPLES?

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The picture of the Babylonian Moon-God found on a cylinder seal in the British Museum is from an archeological discovery from the Middle East, which is now on display at the British Museum.

Throughout Egypt to Turkey, archeologists have dug up hundreds of little idols with a crescent Moon sitting on their head. In ancient pagan temples, there are walls with pictures of a god sitting on a throne with a crescent Moon over his head. At times there are several stars placed near the Moon to symbolize the daughters of the Moon god.

Before Mohammed was ever born, the Arabs worshipped 360 pagan gods housed in the Kabah in Mecca. One of the pagan gods they worshipped was the Moon god who was married to the Sun goddess. The stars were their children.

People worshipped the Moon god by bowing in prayer toward Mecca several times a day. They would make a pilgrimage to Mecca and run around a pagan stone temple called the Kabah seven times; slit the throat of a sheep; and throw stones at the devil.

They gave alms to the poor in honour of the Moon god. They fasted during the month, which began with the appearance of the crescent Moon in the sky and closed when the crescent Moon reappeared. They put the symbol of the crescent Moon on the walls of their homes and on their clothing.

This Moon religion was the pagan religion in which Mohammed was reared.

Where did Islam get the crescent Moon symbol which sits on top of its mosques and is displayed on Islamic country flags? From the religion of the Moon god.

Where did Islam get the name of its god? From the Moon god, Allah.

How sad it is to see people ignorantly bowing down toward Mecca and praying towards the Moon god Allah.

And according to the Bible - Muslims are actually worshipping demons(I Cor. 10:20).
 
Vienna said:
MOSQUES - MOON GOD TEMPLES?
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M*W: I don't think so. The moon goddess regulates the tides and time and the menses. The moon regulates life. The sun creates life, but the moon regulates it. You do the math.
 
erm, what has this got to do with Allah, if people before Mohammed (saw) worshipped other things? are these people Allah?

and notice how many time you used the word "pagan"
 
Vienna said:
MOSQUES - MOON GOD TEMPLES?
where did Islam get the crescent Moon symbol which sits on top of its mosques and is displayed on Islamic country flags? From the religion of the Moon god.
No, the moon and stars guide traverllers just as the Islam guide people

Vienna said:
Where did Islam get the name of its god? From the Moon god, Allah.
Allah means God in Arabic. in Arabic translations of the Bible the word Allah is used just as God is used.
 
you dont get the whole point of the Quran do you?

so what if the the Kabba used to have idols in it? do they have them now?

the whole point of the Mohammed's (saw) sending was to get rid of these.

and Vienna, the whole point of the sending if the Quran was to cancel out the old religions, so these idols mean nothing now because the Quran canclled them out.

the ONLY source of Islam is the QURAN and HADEETH anything else is not islam, and does the Quran say to worship a moon god? no it says Allahs attributes are perfect and not only that - unimaginable. in other words Allah is absolutely NOTHING like created things and not even imgainbale at All because thoughts are creations. so your puny "imagination" of Allah is NOTHING!
 
munim_786 said:
Allah means God in Arabic. in Arabic translations of the Bible the word Allah is used just as God is used.

Thats right, Allah means God in Arabic.

The same name used by pagan arabs for the moon god
 
Allah is unimaginable - he is NOTHING like creation and thought is created so it is immpossible to concive Allah.

Nothing Imaginable doesn't just mean his form you cant even say Allah takes up a space or has been around for this many years... blah blah.


1) you can imagine idols and moons cant you?
2) Moon Gods etc. are NOWHERE in the Quran or aithenitc Hadeeth.

so basically your puny imagionation of Allah is wrong.
 
Really??

Here's something else for you:

The Black stone, an idol of worship in moon god pre-Islam time, is still worshipped by the Muslims and is described as follows:

The annual pilgrimage to the Kaaba takes place in the first ten days of Dhu al-Hijja, the last lunar month of the Islamic calendar. The BLACK STONE set on the outside of one corner of the structure is solemnly kissed by all the pilgrims who can gain access to it. Lesser pilgrimages are performed throughout the year.


Any muslim know why there is a moon on top of every mosque??
 
Vienna, your analysis seems likely, as religions evolve over time. Too bad present day muslims do not respect their roots. This moon god seems like as good an idea as any, I mean, you can see it up there in the sky, unlike God. Time will tell, wether these new Abrahamic religions will survive.
 
Vienna said:
Really??

Here's something else for you:

The Black stone, an idol of worship in moon god pre-Islam time, is still worshipped by the Muslims and is described as follows:

The annual pilgrimage to the Kaaba takes place in the first ten days of Dhu al-Hijja, the last lunar month of the Islamic calendar. The BLACK STONE set on the outside of one corner of the structure is solemnly kissed by all the pilgrims who can gain access to it. Lesser pilgrimages are performed throughout the year.


Any muslim know why there is a moon on top of every mosque??

what has the kissing got to do with anything? do u understand Hajj - NO!

if we kiss it do we worship it?

wot r u on?

Vienna said:
Any muslim know why there is a moon on top of every mosque??
 
munim_786 said:
what has the kissing got to do with anything? do u understand Hajj - NO!

if we kiss it do we worship it?

wot r u on?

Then tell me why muslims travel to the black stone and kiss it.
 
Vienna said:
Any muslim know why there is a moon on top of every mosque??

anyone know why there is a cross on a chuch? do Christians worship the cross? no its a symbol, fool!

and "every mosque" hmmm, tottally intrue.

and also do you think the way SOME Mosques are built reflect Islam more then the Quran (which doesn't worship the "moon god")

and once again...

Allah is unimaginable - he is NOTHING like creation and thought is created so it is immpossible to concive Allah.

Nothing Imaginable doesn't just mean his form you cant even say Allah takes up a space or has been around for this many years... blah blah.


1) you can imagine idols and moons cant you?
2) Moon Gods etc. are NOWHERE in the Quran or aithenitc Hadeeth.

so basically your puny imagionation of Allah is wrong.
 
spidergoat said:
Vienna, your analysis seems likely, as religions evolve over time. Too bad present day muslims do not respect their roots. This moon god seems like as good an idea as any, I mean, you can see it up there in the sky, unlike God. Time will tell, wether these new Abrahamic religions will survive.

Yes indeed, time will tell.

The world will be a safer place without one so called Abrahamic faith - the moon god religion.
 
Vienna said:
Thats right, Allah means God in Arabic.

The same name used by pagan arabs for the moon god

what has the same name got to do with anything?

Jesus to Muslims is Jesus to Christians but Jesus to us in not the son of God despite having the same name.

also:
Vienna said:
Thats right, Allah means God in Arabic.
source 1) GOD in English can mean ANY God (Hindu, Jewish, Muslim etc.)
source 2) and Allah in arabic has the EXACT meaning as God in English.

so what ure saying is just becasue this god may or many not of been called Allah if you use source one it doesn;t really have anything to do with Islam does it? now use source 2 becasue it os exactly the same as source 1.

your other threads make sense and have a basis but if you think Islam is a religion that worships ANYTHING other then Allah then you are just stupid.
 
munim_786 said:
so what ure saying is just becasue this god may or many not of been called Allah if you use source one it doesn;t really have anything to do with Islam does it? now use source 2 becasue it os exactly the same as source 1.

OK munim, just for you.

ALLAH THE MOON GOD

Pagan Arabs used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names. The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day.

So why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an?
Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?

Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.
In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods."

This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods.

Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser.

This is true as seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence.

Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways.

To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

Hmmm...Any muslim know why there is a moon on top of every mosque??
 
Reply To Moon-God Myth & Other Deceptive Attacks On Islam

''And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him'' The Noble Quran (41:37)

CONTENTS

Morey's Deceptive Methods
How Morey quotes from Professor Coon
How Morey quotes from Caesar Farah
Morey Contradicts Himself
Irrelevant Archeological Evidence
How Morey Twists Things
Morey's Intended Audience
Fallacy of Equivocation
False Evidence
Optical Delusions
What was the Name of that Moon-god?
Concealed Evidence
Back to the Real Issue
Morey's Folly
The Crescent Moon in Islam
Questions Answered
Works Cited
Appendix

Read the whole LIES exposed here:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html

Another CHRISTIAN LIE exposed, next one please ??? :cool:
 
Proud_Muslim said:
Reply To Moon-God Myth & Other Deceptive Attacks On Islam

''And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him'' The Noble Quran (41:37)


Read the whole LIES exposed here:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html

Another CHRISTIAN LIE exposed, next one please ??? :cool:

This link is written in the same Islamic format that refutes the truth. It doesn't prove anything. When a faith dislikes the facts what is written about it, or is in the book of thier faith, it will turn and twist words.


Pagan Arab beliefs:

People worshipped the Moon god by bowing in prayer toward Mecca several times a day. They would make a pilgrimage to Mecca and run around a pagan stone temple called the Kabah seven times; slit the throat of a sheep; and throw stones at the devil.

Sounds familiar?


And no one has answered my question:

Why is a moon found on the top of mosques?
 
Why is it an "attack" on islam to say they once worshipped the moon?
Its a compliment, shows at one stage there was some semblance of sanity.
If you check back just about every culture started out decent, and just about everyone has since turned to crap.
 
Vienna said:
And no one has answered my question:

Why is a moon found on the top of mosques
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Certainly vienna, you dont have even the basic information about Islam, for example, you dont know that Muslims for example have their own calender depending on the movement of the moon, called LUNAR YEAR, you dont know that Muslims start the fasting month of Ramadan when they see the early crescent of specific month and end ramadan when they saw the early crescent of the next month !!

Vienna does not know that the symbol of the crescent and star was not known in the muslim world until the 15th century when the ottomans introduced it to the Muslim world:

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The crescent moon and star is an internationally-recognized symbol of the faith of Islam. The symbol is featured on the flags of several Muslim countries, and is even part of the official emblem for the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. The Christians have the cross, the Jews have the star of David, and the Muslims have the crescent moon, right?

The early Muslim community did not really have a symbol.

During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), Islamic armies and caravans flew simple solid-colored flags (generally black, green, or white) for identification purposes. In later generations, the Muslim leaders continued to use a simple black, white, or green flag with simple writings like ALLAH AKBAR ( allah is the greatest ) or LA ILAH ILA ALLAH MUHAMMAD RASOULU ALLAH ( No god but Allah, Muhammad is his prophet ).

لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله

It wasn't until the Ottoman Empire that the crescent moon and star became affiliated with the Muslim world. When the Turks conquered Constantinople (Istanbul) in 1453, they adopted the city's existing flag and symbol. Legend holds that the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Osman, had a dream in which the crescent moon stretched from one end of the earth to the other. Taking this as a good omen, he chose to keep the crescent and make it the symbol of his dynasty. There is speculation that the five points on the star represent the five pillars of Islam, but this is pure conjecture. The five points were not standard on the Ottoman flags, and as you will see on the following page, it is still not standard on flags used in the Muslim world today.

For hundreds of years, the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Muslim world. After centuries of battle with Christian Europe, it is understandable how the symbols of this empire became linked in people's minds with the faith of Islam as a whole.

Based on this history, many Muslims reject using the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam. The faith of Islam has historically had no symbol, and many refuse to accept what is essentially an ancient pagan icon. It is certainly not in uniform use among Muslims.
 
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