Mystech said:You know, you should really to talk with a psychologist, because frankly you've got some strange ideas about why people kill themselves.
You know, you should not be so presumptious and act all-knowing, because these ACTUALLY are valid reasons if someone wants to kill themselves.
"you are bored/no drive to continue/don't fit in" are all abbreviated signs of depression (certainly psychological suffering)
False. If boredom is a sign of depression, then you could say, everyone is depressed, because people are bored regularly. When someone is completely bored of life, they need not be depressed, much like being bored normally, is not being depressed either. That's not psychological suffering.
Shortcut to the after life" would likely be a justification that an already clinically depressed and suicidal individual might give themselves to help them muster the initiative to go through with it.
You do not have to be depressed to kill yourself to get to the after life. You could happily just throw yourself of the roof of a high-rise building, thinking you will just wake up in a much better world. It really depends, on how strong your beliefs are, but it does not necessarily imply, you are depressed.
And killing yourself to save another only happens on TV, outside of maybe some rare situations in wars and the like, I don't think that this happens very often at all.
It happens, that's all you need to know. It's one reason, why people commit suicide.
Now, as for the suggestion that this boy might have considered killing himself instead, I'd just have to say that this is a completely despicable and unjustifiable point of view! Why in the world should he die just because this old man has made his own life and that of his family a living hell? I agree that the correct course of action would probably have been to first contact the authorities and get the old bastard locked away, however, regardless the act of murdering the old man was close to being heroic. His grandfather bought about his own murder, you don't screw with other people's lives like that without warranting punishment or retribution, that's why we have laws to prevent such things, and it's far better that this young man should have taken matters into his own hands to solve the problem, and give his grandfather what he had coming than to sit back and let it continue. It was certainly much better than taking himself out of the equation, now THAT would have been tragic, and senseless. To propose that if someone antagonizes you enough that you then are responsible to take your own life if you've got a problem with the situation is utterly absurd. I assume he was only trying to solve the problem in the only way that his shattered psyche would allow him, and more power too him I say!
You are soo opinionated. You have no right to make judgements about the boys actions, simply because, you were not subject to the emotions, thoughts, and experiences the boy was subjected too, to understand, why this boy may want to kill himself.
I can understand, why he may want to kill himself, going through such a traumatic and horrific life, and seeing nothing but hate and unjust, why would he want to live on, and for what? It's his choice ultimately, wether he lives on with his horrific past and dies later, or dies earlier.
I really do not understand your antagonism against suicide. You are going to die anyway one day, so what is the problem, in choosing that day. If it's your choice, to kill yourself, then nobody should stop you. Its irrelavant, what society thinks - society are a bunch of idiots anyway.
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