Is Rape Natural?
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Are all reports of rape real?
I don't think so.
What do you think the frequency of fake reports is likely to be?
Consider that a woman has to go through an intimate medical exam, questioning by cops, personal humiliation by repeatedly going through the details of the rape (in a sense reliving it over and over), not counting the trauma of the legal process, intimate questioning by attorneys and having everyone she knows hearing about it (including her husband and children, her parents, her friends, her employers, etc). All this and the possible physical, emotional and psychological trauma of the actual assault.
Rape is the only crime where the victim is as much on trial (and sometimes even more so) than the defendant.
How many women would go through all this with no real basis in fact?
Out of interest, how many such cases have there been?
If the woman was never raped, she'd have a difficult time "reliving" the experience over and over, wouldn't she?
The number of unreported cases is undoubtedly much higher than the number of falsely reported cases.
Sexual assault is such a broad umbrella term these days, though, it's extremely easy for a woman to ruin a man's life, even though the woman was as much at fault as the man. It's the whole "doubt of rape is anathema" attitude.
She'd still have to tell it over and over and have people know about it
Are there any stats available?
That represents a difference of opinion.
Consider for instance, that what a woman considers rape, a man may not (see James' thread on attitudes to rape)
Are you a woman? Do you even understand what a rape really means? Honey, even these "rape fantasies" are about being taken by someone they DESIRE AND WANT. So its really not real rape, SHE PICKED THE GUY IN THE DREAM. Its not just the fear of social stigma. If you WAKE up for just a moment you will realize NO ONE MALE OR FEMALE WANTS TO BE RAPED UNLESS YOU BELONG TO THE MENTALLY ILL LIKE THE JEFFREY DAHMER VARIETY OR THE PERSON WHO CUT OFF HIS PRICK AND FRIED IT.
My definition of natural is that any harm is not natural so there is constant resistance. I don't believe that just because things are a certain way that it is right, but it is what it is and thats why theres constant Cause and effect until its remedied. Thats why we lock our doors, have bank accounts, animals develop some type of defence mechanisms even predators. Its a process full of mistakes through evolution.
As a simple example, I have an older friend who was constantly beaten, mistreated and raped by her husband. One day she got fed up with it and she killed the fuker with a shotgun. She went to prison, got a masters degree and now is a counselor for victims of domestic violence. She's a good lady and I know her. Thats very fuking natural....lol
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just as natural as this.www.galstown.ne.jp/ph_travel/dodo/nevada/129503464/forbidden.html
natural:
existing in or produced by nature; not artificial or imitation; "a natural pearl"; "natural gas"; "natural silk"; "natural blonde hair"; "a natural sweetener"; "natural fertilizers"
existing in or in conformity with nature or the observable world; neither supernatural nor magical; "a perfectly natural explanation"
functioning or occurring in a normal way; lacking abnormalities or deficiencies; "it's the natural thing to happen"; "natural immunity"; "a grandparent's natural affection for a grandchild"
Your definition of natural is wrong.
my definition of natural is expressed differently but basically has the same meaning. You are just unable to see the forest for the trees unless pointed out for you because you lack real thinking skills but only able to repeat a set mote way of thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if someone can identify a certain concept or feeling heretofore until now has been unidentified you would think it unreal because you can't look it up in the webster dictionary. Just like religionists who believe reality that does not coincide with their bible must be an illusion. Evolution is a work in progress. lol
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http://www.powa.co.za/Display.asp?ID=13
Great link re this topic
note that
60% of men interviewed said they would rape if they thought they could get away with it.
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MYTH: RAPISTS ARE INSANE
Implications:
attempts to excuse the crime of rape
disregards the social context of gender inequality
assumes a recognisable profile of a rapist and thus blames the survivor for the rape
Facts:
research shows that less than 5% of rapists can be classified clinically insane
in a study done on a campus in the US, 60% of male participants indicated they might rape a woman if they knew they would not get caught
rapists can rarely be distinguished from other men except that they disregard the pain they cause "
Great link re this topic
note that
60% of men interviewed said they would rape if they thought they could get away with it.
"
MYTH: RAPISTS ARE INSANE
Implications:
attempts to excuse the crime of rape
disregards the social context of gender inequality
assumes a recognisable profile of a rapist and thus blames the survivor for the rape
Facts:
research shows that less than 5% of rapists can be classified clinically insane
in a study done on a campus in the US, 60% of male participants indicated they might rape a woman if they knew they would not get caught
rapists can rarely be distinguished from other men except that they disregard the pain they cause "
60% of men? That would mean we have a lot of violent sociopath dudes out there, or a lot of liars, which is it?
I think a lot of men might be able to SAY anything, being able to actually do it however would require a complete lack of remorse. So I think the 60% number is artificial, even in the military 60% of the males aren't killers, and these are the hardest of hardcore. It's unlikely that 60% of all males lack remorse, and are violent, and thats the combination you'd need, the psychological combination you'd require to commit an act like rape.
To me, even if rape were legal I would not be able to commit the act, just like if murder were legal, I would not be jumping for joy at the chance to kill people, it's not ever going to be fun or rational.
So it's not that rapists are "insane", psychopaths and violent definately, insane is the wrong classification. Most people who rape and murder are not insane, but most people who rape and murder lack empathy/remorse/guilt, and are extremely violent, so the right classification is violent psychopath.
I don't think it could be more than 20% of the population myself and thats actually a stretch, it's likely under 10%. And of this 10% who you could call psychopaths, most are not violent, as just having a lack of remorse and empathy does not automatically make someone a rapist, or murderer, or violent.
If you really can prove that 60% of males lack remorse and are violent, then that would shock even me, hell even in Prisons it's not that many males who are doing the rapes and murders, in prison 20% are psychopaths.
I'd like to see the source for this study as well as the campus.