Is it possible for a human to Spontaneously Combust?

[RussellCrawford]

Exactly. You are so much smarter than all the "scientists" in the real world.

I am not smarter. I am honest.

They all use trickery and fraud;.

The proof is there for anyone to see.

only you are truthful, heroically opposing the misinformation and straw men of mainstream science with your righteous woo.

I am the only truthful person in this debate.

You have a choice, you can save innocent born babies or you can let them die and save a fetus instead. Pro lifers choose to let innocent babies die.

 

[RussellCrawford]

Exactly. You are so much smarter than all the "scientists" in the real world. They all use trickery and fraud; only you are truthful, heroically opposing the misinformation and straw men of mainstream science with your righteous woo.

No I am not smarter than all scientists. I do agree with you that they all use trickery and fraud. Thanks for pointing that out. And thanks for saying I am the only one that is truthful and opposing the misinformation and straw men. But you are wrong about mainstream science, mainstream science is not part of the problem. The problem here is with a few discredited misfits.

 

[billvon]

No I am not smarter than all scientists. I do agree with you that they all use trickery and fraud. Thanks for pointing that out.

Sorry, my mistake. You are the only honest person amongst all of them. It must be hard being the only person who is honest enough to face facts, when every scientist in the world is lying to people.

You have a choice, you can save innocent born babies or you can let them die and save a fetus instead. Pro lifers choose to let innocent babies die.

Well, you have a choice too. You can stop posting, or you can continue to use the world's resources and let innocent born babies die. Let's see what you choose.

 

[RussellCrawford]

Sorry, my mistake. You are the only honest person amongst all of them. It must be hard being the only person who is honest enough to face facts, when every scientist in the world is lying to people.

I am not the only honest person and with regard to trickery and fraud, I was speaking primarily of you, not all scientists. You, being dishonest, have taken my comments out of context. You know the group I am speaking of, so don't continue your little game. Perhaps a direct statement will help you. I am not the only smart person and I am not the only honest person. I am also not the tallest, the most healthy, the best looking or any other thing you choose to throw into the mix.


Well, you have a choice too. You can stop posting, or you can continue to use the world's resources and let innocent born babies die. Let's see what you choose. [/QUOTE]

That is just another false analogy bound together with another ad hominem. It is a waste of time.

 

[Aqueous Id]

Recap:

he had burnt from the inside out.

People do not burst into flames. There are flamming assholes but that is something different.

often they are drunk or otherwise incapacitated

Not even swallowing a gallon of gasoline and attempting to ignight it

The enzymes probably burnt

Or he set himself on fire a la Richard Pryor.

temperature for DNA . .. 75 deg. C . . cells . . . as high as 5000 degrees

There may have been a few . . . in Hiroshima and Nagasaki . . .

. . .rocket fuel from water. . .

. . . exploding Squirrels and Bunnies . . .

……Bermuda Triangle…..Roswell……..…..repeat and fade……..

The friction when I rub your head

crank

berk

decoder ring

trickery . .. fraud . . .discredited misfits . . .waste of time

woo

save innocent born babies or you can let them die and save a fetus instead

Hey, what thread am I in? Let me just take Deja Vu off pause. This was going so good.

 

[GaiaGirl95]

We were talking about a SHC survivor named Frank Baker. Who went on TV to talk of his experience.

 

[GaiaGirl95]

Anyone comment on this case? Is Frank Baker telling the truth?

 

[Write4U]

Well, I would not advise a person with severe active flatulence to experiment with matches. Methane is highly combustible.

 

[GaiaGirl95]

Well, I would not advise a person with severe active flatulence to experiment with matches. Methane is highly combustible.

True, but that would result in external burns. Frank Baker is saying a doctor called him and said, ''Frank, this burned from the inside-out.''

 

[Read-Only]

Anyone comment on this case? Is Frank Baker telling the truth?

No he's not. Anyone can get on TV and say anything. He's provided NOTHING to back up his idiotic claim.

 

[GaiaGirl95]

No he's not. Anyone can get on TV and say anything. He's provided NOTHING to back up his idiotic claim.

Well, can we rule out the possibility of SHC 100%?

 

[exchemist]

Well, can we rule out the possibility of SHC 100%?

Yes, and you know it, from the many, many other forums on which you've posted this rubbish. Bugger off.

 

[GaiaGirl95]

Yes, and you know it, from the many, many other forums on which you've posted this rubbish. Bugger off.

Can you list the reasons what made you conclude SHC can be ruled out exactly 100% ? You are declaring that SHC is completely impossible. That's a pretty big claim for something that has puzzled scientists for decades. Are you a scientist?

 

[GaiaGirl95]

Spontaneous Combustion Baby In India? 3-Month-Old Rahul bursts into flames 4 times
http://www.isciencetimes.com/article...-month-old.htm

At first, I assumed this was a case of child abuse, but after researching into this case I discovered it also happened in the presence of doctors in the O.R, while the parents were waiting anxiously outside (the parents were away from the baby in one of the instances). Doctors have made a diagnosis of Spontaneous Human Combustion.

What do you think? This is 2 cases of SHC that was diagnosed by a doctor in alleged SHC survivors. Frank Baker had self-ignited ans a doctor said he'd burnt from the inside out, and the doctors in India are also saying this.

 

[rpenner]

Again the newspaper report is credulous trash -- the cause of the baby's burns was phosphorus in building materials -- in this case [post=3152450]cow dung[/post].

 

[GaiaGirl95]

Again the newspaper report is credulous trash -- the cause of the baby's burns was phosphorus in building materials -- in this case [post=3152450]cow dung[/post].

Do you have any evidence of that? Why did this only affect the baby, and not materials in the house, or the other people?

 

[GaiaGirl95]

''Frank Baker faced death while earning two Purple Hearts in Vietnam, but the scariest moment of his life came in June 1995.

Baker was in his home in Vermont, when he suddenly burst into flames, an experience he discusses for the first time on "The Unexplained Files," airing Oct. 2 on the Science Channel.

"We were getting ready for fishing and sitting on the couch," Baker said on the episode. "Everything was great. [Friend] Pete [Willey] was sitting next to me [and] we were having a helluva time."

That is, until things started heating up -- literally -- when flames appeared on Baker's body.

"It was the damndest thing I've ever seen," Willey remembered. "Frank was freaking out and making me freak out."

Baker started panicking and tried everything to stop his body from being burned.

"I had no idea what was taking place on my body -- none," he said.

Baker and Willey somehow put out the flames and got to a doctor. But the diagnosis was as shocking as the sudden flames that engulfed his body.

"The doctor called, and said, 'Frank, this burned from the inside out,'" Baker said.''






According to one source: ''The doctors concluded he burned from the inside out and was a victim of partial spontaneous combustion''.

 

[rpenner]

The only source for any of that is Frank Baker. Spontaneous Human Combustion sounds a lot better as a tale for retelling than Careless Self-Immolation.
Likewise, baby Rahul is not subject to Spontaneous Human Combustion, but Stupid Village Arsonists and Child Abusers.

Abuse of white phosphorous completely explains the burns. The only questions are who and why.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...e-docs-hint-at-child-abuse/article5010621.ece

Incidentally, the baby’s mother hails from Nedumozhiyanur which was in the news in 2004 after residents there complained their houses spontaneously burst into flames.

Investigations revealed phosphorus stuffed in wet cow dung had been placed in the huts. When the dung dried up, phosphorus, which has a low ignition point, lit up, setting the huts on fire. Enmity between two groups had led to one party resorting to such acts to harm their rivals. At the time, there were also reports of animals going up in flames and it was found phosphorus had been rubbed on the animals too, causing them to go up in flames.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-all-not-well-with-parents/article5010622.ece

Karnan and Rajeswari married in 2010, against their families’ wishes, after falling in love when working in a cement factory in Chengalpattu. The couple also has a three-year-old daughter. For the past few months, Karnan has been out of a job, resulting in friction between the couple. After Rahul’s birth, the rift widened. Rahul’s self-ignition disturbed Rajeswari, who attempted suicide by consuming pesticide.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/burning-baby-case-rahul-homebound/article5053204.ece

Hospital dean P. Ramakrishnan said, “We came to know that there is no evidence of spontaneous burns in the child. He has recovered completely.”

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat.../41580002_1_rahul-child-abuse-chennai-doctors

The doctor from Villupuram who recommended shifting Rahul to Chennai last month said he suspected 'Munchausen syndrome by proxy' in either of the parents. The syndrome is a rare form of child abuse in which the caretaker of the child induces illness in the child to gain sympathy.

 

[billvon]

Anyone comment on this case? Is Frank Baker telling the truth?

Probably not.

True, but that would result in external burns. Frank Baker is saying a doctor called him and said, ''Frank, this burned from the inside-out.''

It is VERY common for patients to completely misunderstand what their doctor said. A doctor who said, for example, "full thickness burns" could easily be misunderstood to be claiming "he burned on the inside too" - and after he realized he needed a little boost to get his news story on TV, it becomes "he burned from the inside out."

 

[Write4U]

Probably not.

It is VERY common for patients to completely misunderstand what their doctor said. A doctor who said, for example, "full thickness burns" could easily be misunderstood to be claiming "he burned on the inside too" - and after he realized he needed a little boost to get his news story on TV, it becomes "he burned from the inside out."

oh, that is precious. We can make a claim that there is "spontaneous combustion of hemmorhoids" . Damn, they can burn! (so I hear )