Followed by Michaels turn to jerk in another jerk cycle:
Nope. I dont think murdering innocent people is right. I have stated that time and again. You however, never seem to see it. I wonder why? Unfortunately for you though, the Muslims and or Arabs didnt just get up 1 day and say "Lets go kill us some Spaniards!". The military campaigns fought by the Muslims were in direct response to attacks and agrression against them by their neighbours, and, because the people that attacked them never asked for a ceasefire or peace treaty, just kept retreating, they were followed and fought against.
Except ofcourse, the persecution first under the Romans, then the invasions and massacres by the Germanic Suevi, Vandals and Alans. The Byazntine conquest not to be forgotten. Funny how Spain was merely a granary until the Muslims brought culture, intellect and philosophy and raised Spain and Cordoba to an incredible high standard. But ofcourse, how could these infidels be granted all this favour by Jesus? Kill the infidels! And thats when the Muslims were kicked out. And what followed? Well, we all know what happened once the Muslims were kicked out. You ofcourse, will continue to deny that and only remember the Arabs.
Just like you think its fine that the Byzantine Empire continously attacked the Muslims and Arabs, provoking the response.
Ofcourse, except Iraq never attacked the US, whereas the Spanish and European Christians did. One only has to look at the barbarity and massacres during the pre-Islamic period and the post-Islamic period to see the difference betwen Islamic rule and non-Islamic rule in Spain.
Ofcourse, but then you dont acknowledge anything positive the Arabs or Muslims have done. You focus on military campaigns by the Arabs and Muslims, whose armies consisted of Jews, Christians, Romans and various non-Muslims btw, without ever acknowledging that they were provoked and that the civilization the Muslims brought thrust Europe and Spain onto a whole different level, unmatched anywhere in Europe.
And ofcourse no mention whatsoever of the dozens of times Egypt was invaded, pillaged and raped by almost everyone around it. No mention that Egyptian religion and culture was destroyed by the introduction of Christianity and its subsequent rise, after ofcourse being persecuted to the hilt by the Egyptians. No mention that Egypt, being part of the Byzantine Empire, was guilty of attacking their neighbours, the Muslims and Arabs, and provoked the response that led to the Byazntines losing total control over Egypt. No mention of the Muslims killed and or raped. But then again, dont expect that from Michael...
Just like its Ok for you if Muslims get ethnically cleansed in Medina, or wiped out by the Persians, or get ravaged, raped, pillaged and killed by the Byzantine empire.
Self defense against a neighbouring country that keeps attacking you is universally accepted.
Except ofcourse their language, religion and culture was all but destroyed by the introduction of Christianity. But lets not talk about that, right?
Except that the military campaigns were not for the spread of Islam, so had nothing to do with bringing a book. Besides, smelly nomads? :bugeye: You mean the nomads that washed themselves 5 times a day? Wow. When have I last heard someone call a whole group of people smelly...
The ignorance in your post is astounding. It goes to show you know nothing about what the Arabs think about themselves. Oh wait, I forgot, you have a "friend" in Persi... I mean, Iran. Stop drinking the koolaid hes offering you.
No Muslim crusades ever took place.
Proof? Thought so. Egyptians took over Arab culture, because it was better than the Christian culture that was being imposed on them.
Leading violent revolts against a country will make you unloved. Just ask ETA or other groups how well they are faring.
Except the Muslims didnt colonize. Whereas the European nations went and killed and massacred people on the other side of the world who had never attacked them, the Muslims had to fight against their neighbours who were bent on ethnic cleansing.
Not comparable to the Muslim campaigns.
Those people were already being taxed. Every nation, almost every, taxes its people. Since Islam asks its followers to pay Zakat as tax, it would have been unethical to ask the Egyptians, or anyone else, to follow Islam and pay the Zakat. If that had been done, the argument presented by you would be how the Muslims slowly and subtly tried to convert the Egyptians without telling them. So, instead of asking the Egyptians to pay a Muslim tax, they were asked to pay a tax, as they always did, instead this tax exempted them from military service. Besides that, there was no difference. But ofcourse, the Copts started staging their own TEA parties and wanted to be ruled over by teh Byzantines again, envying the acceptance Islam had gained.
So if I know a couple of conservatives in the US, should I believe them about whats going on right now?