charliequimico said:
Hi Skinwalker : The fact that the guy that you mention is making fake videos about ufo's do not really makes me a skeptic like you.
I have no idea what you're trying to say there, but... okay.
charliequimico said:
J. Allen Hynek ,a real scientist, and a more skeptic person than you right now,convinced himself about the unquestionable evidence of the ufo phenomenon.
Even "smart" people can believe in wierd things. His education and status as "scientist" only served to allow him to argue more intelligently. Something that has been lacking with the woo-woos that have invaded this board recently. You all seem to be so busy with the so-called "injustices" of the establishment of science for "ignoring" such "proven" "sciences" as ufology to bother actually educating yourselves in the scientific process. Or busy tossing about childish profanity and name-calling, which betrays your
real ability to think critically. Or by buying into fantastic speculations simply because they're possible, however improbable, and fun to "imagine."
charliequimico said:
His book "Ufo's,A scientific Inquiry",could possibly shake your denial attitude toward one of the most interesting subjects around.Have you read it?
I have read it... when I was much younger. I've since read many, more convincing texts that range from topics of general science, anthropology, sociology, psychology, and even the topic of ufo's. Try reading
UFO's: a Scientific Debate by Carl Sagan. Or Sagan's
A Demon Haunted World. Hynek's book lacked the ability to make any conclusions based on testable evidence. If you disagree, cite it here and let's discuss it. The problem is, that the woo-woos that join this board an proclaim themselves "scientists" lack that ability. They can't go point by point with the evidences that actually exist in "ufology" or make appropriate use of scientific method to reach conclusions that support their hypotheses and speculations. Instead they offer us spurious evidence and data then say "WOO-WOO! LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE!" -which turns out to be unsupported poppycock.
charliequimico said:
If not ,then you are not a real graduate scientist.
I don't recall Hynek's bullshit being on any reading lists for any graduate science work. Do you have a link to a syllabus of a professor from an accredited university that is requiring it? For a hard science?
charliequimico said:
Please, stop making biased comments.A real scientist shall not be biased.You are definitely biased about ufos.
Wow. Pots. Kettles. Several shades of black. All these come to mind, but I shall let you have your delusions. Let me ask, however, what difference would any bias make with regard to a clear lack of physical and testable evidence for the ufo phenomena as being evidence of any ETI?
Unlike others who are skeptical, I *do* believe in ufology. But I see it as a quasi-religious experience for those that delve into it. Ironically, it is the responses that ufo-nutters and woo-woos give to skeptics that lends credibility to this hypothesis. Christian nutters respond the same way when their gods are questioned. Indeed, look at the new nut to join, Raelian1, who is spouting religious dogma strait from the cuff regarding this very topic. He goes so far as to make bold claims without evidence, expecting to take advantage of the belief engine that is kicked into overdrive among the ufo-nutters and recruit new members of the "church."
Good day.
