Why would a god be just?
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Just more likely to be - I believe you are now adopting the stance of treating that distinction as important, no ?SAM said:Why define intelligence? That just gets in the way of the stereotyping theists as dumb.
Stranger, not to stray too far off topic, but I agree with you. Just in whose eyes? God considers himself Just, and what we think about it may or may not line up with his opinion.
In general, though, I am confused by this thread. Are we saying that intelligent=educated=knowledgeable? If so, I would have to refute that.
I think an agreed upon definition of intelligence is called for before any further discussion of the OP can be honestly had.
Just more likely to be - I believe you are now adopting the stance of treating that distinction as important, no ?
Actually it really is!YOUR opinion is not your gods opinion.
What theory, exactly, are you talking about?SAM said:My only argument here is whether the proponents of this theory also support arriving at similar conclusions on the Bell Curve.
What theory, exactly, are you talking about?
Good God man... I don't think ANYONE believes this. SAM is being quoted out of context, JDawg is a dumbass and a half-wit troll, and I'm losing my fucking mind because SAM's point has been so ridiculously misunderstood.
The assertion that atheists are in general more intelligent than non-atheists is based on some definition of "intelligent", as well (I should add---where's Fraggle when you need him?) as on some definition of "atheist". The definition of "intelligent" comes from some IQ test that some silly social scientists invented and thought was accurate. Of course, the same IQ tests can also be used to show that white people are more intelligent than black people, and that Jews are all of our intellectual superiors.
SAM pointed this out, and her posts were deleted from the original thread for some reason I have yet to (and possibly will never) understand, hence the three (?) threads in this fucking forum.
If the results are correct, all of the atheists can sit around, and comment on how wonderful their own shit smells because they are more enlightened than the poor Bush voting, knuckle dragging creationists in Kentucky. Of course, then they also have to admit that if they believe the results of the study, and that they have absolutely no grounds for disregarding "The Bell Curve" and other such studies.
Either that, or they can admit the study was flawed in a fundamental way, and that IQ tests only test the ability of someone to figure out how to solve fucking Soduku puzzles.
Am I alone in this realization?
With all due respect, I have found it absolutely necessary to verify in advance, before attempting a reply, as specifically as possible, exactly what you talking about in such contexts - and reading the rest of the thread, or any thread involving you and religion, does not provide enough information.SAM said:What theory, exactly, are you talking about?
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Have you missed all the discussion on this thread?
Actually it really is!
*child standing next to his mother with outreached hands*
Mommy, Mommy, Jimmy wants another cookie! He likes them, he does. He reall really does Mommy, Jimmy just wants, just one more.
*mother*
Now now, it's time to stop talking to your invisible friend Hamtastic, you're 38 years old! if you want a gawd damn cookie just take one! (grumbles something about get a life and a job and adult children living in their parents basement playing WoW...)