Intelligent Design....?

Yorda said:
proof of the intelligent designer: we can't understand how the universe works, so the only possibility is that god, imagination, makes it work.
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The other 'only' explanation is that the human brain evolved for other tasks than understanding how the universe works.
 
Yorda said:
we can't understand how the universe works, so the only way to understand it is to create an imaginary character that makes it work.

it's illogical that the universe exists, so the only possibility is that there is an illogical god who created it.
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we can't understand how life forms existed, so the only way to understand it is to create an imaginary theory called evolution....

its illogical that there could be an intelligent cause, so the only possibility is illogical mutations and natural selection even if the objective evidence doesn't match...
 
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vitalone said:
Yes there would go look it up...you can't magically change 40 million bases so precisely in a few mutations...
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So?

Seriously - do you have any idea what kinds of changes are possible in a few mutations, or how many mutations it takes to get a new species, on average, or what the genetic drift rate is for even an unevolving animal, over five million years?

You don't. Nor do you have any idea of the likelihood of the intervening species "between" Pan and Homo leaving traces of any kind.

vital said:
we can't understand how life forms existed, so the only way to understand it is to create an imaginary theory called evolution....
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That's pretty close to historical: before Darwin, none of the explanations of species diversity and relationship fit the facts. All the creationist theories, for example, had proven worthless in scientific investigation.

Afterwards, all the facts slid into place like clockworks.

So far, nothing has contradicted Darwinian theory - even the discovery of DNA, a fundamental change and huge increase in the facts that had to fit, fit like a glove. It's as if some theory of plate tectonics and glaciers had been developed when people thought the world was flat, and it still worked when the shape was better determined.
 
VitalOne said:
we can't understand how life forms existed, so the only way to understand it is to create an imaginary theory called evolution....
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The Theory of Evolution is hardly an imaginary theory.

its illogical that there could be an intelligent cause,
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Even to scientists, "intelligent design" IS a logical possibility - just one for which there is no evidence.

... so the only possibility is illogical mutations and natural selection even if the objective evidence doesn't match...
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The mutations aren't illogical, merely biological.
The objective evidence DOES fit - which is why the theory still exists, and it will continue to be adapted as more evidence is uncovered.

Unfortunately the ID / Creationist people seem to think, fallaciously, that a lack of all the answers by Evolution is evidence in favour of their beliefs.
What a pity there is no actual evidence to support them, though.
 
The mechanism of mutation are a highly logical outcome of the biological setting in which they take place, and these mechanisms are extremely well documented, described, tested, compared, analyzed, etc.
 
I actually even have one paper in a peer-reviewed journal dealing with evolution. I know that evolution is.

What I don't know is what in fucked up mind is thinking Darwinian evolution is. And despite people having asked you 432 times to write down what it is all you do is your retarded oneliners.
 
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VitalOne said:
we can't understand how life forms existed, so the only way to understand it is to create an imaginary theory called evolution....

its illogical that there could be an intelligent cause, so the only possibility is illogical mutations and natural selection even if the objective evidence doesn't match...
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I am interested: how many books have your read about evolution, written by actual biologists?

For example, have you read anything by Richard Dawkins or Stephen J Gould?

You seem quite uninformed about what evolutions is.
 
The Bible has never been shown to have inaccuracy, this is why it has been the primary roadmap for archaeological work in the Middle East, haven't you heard?
 
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