Insulting Religion

How absurd that a collection of atoms and molecules such as yourself, really not much more than a puddle of goo, can claim to feel wonder, or for that matter, feel anything at all.
How is the universe finding wonder in itself absurd?
 
How absurd that a collection of atoms and molecules such as yourself, really not much more than a puddle of goo, can claim to feel wonder, or for that matter, feel anything at all.
Can't it be both wonderful and absurd? As Jesus is said to have said in the gnostic gospel of Thomas,

If the body came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder, but if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders.
 
Can't it be both wonderful and absurd? As Jesus is said to have said in the gnostic gospel of Thomas,

If the body came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder, but if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders.

Chapter and verse please. Thank you.
 
Can you build me a machine that can experience wonder?

Yes, and I will need a planet with water for a laboratory, a sun for fuel and millions of years to build it, tweaking it through each generation with tiny changes.

I'm thinking of calling it a "human".
 
Yes, and I will need a planet with water for a laboratory, a sun for fuel and millions of years to build it, tweaking it through each generation with tiny changes. I'm thinking of calling it a "human".

Skip to the good stuff. How will you create consciousness?
 
And you have the nerve to question my ability to find wonder in the universe.

That's how I feel when you atheists attack things that inspire me. The problem with atheism is that there are so few things that inspire you people, that it's hard to get excited about atheism.
 
That's how I feel when you atheists attack things that inspire me. The problem with atheism is that there are so few things that inspire you people, that it's hard to get excited about atheism.
We aren't attacking ideas, but claims about reality. Atheism is compatible with the scientific effort to understand more about our world. It seems that faith is the opposite of discovery, it's about conclusions.
 
We aren't attacking ideas, but claims about reality. Atheism is compatible with the scientific effort to understand more about our world. It seems that faith is the opposite of discovery, it's about conclusions.

To counter this I'll remind you of a quote by Bob Marley: As it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end. Hence, atheism is a belief in a 100% physical universe. But that is not the case. We know for a fact that the universe or reality is self-interactive, therefore real. And we know that the universe contains content and is itself a thing, but that content may not always be physical and everything that interacts need not always be physical. It's like looking at your image in a mirror, we think it's real, but it's not. It's only an image. Hence, the physical world is an appearance/ mirage perceived by the senses where perceptual reality is strictly information. Hence, the monic term info-cognition as coined by the CTMU.
 
To counter this I'll remind you of a quote by Bob Marley: As it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end. Hence, atheism is a belief in a 100% physical universe. But that is not the case. We know for a fact that the universe or reality is self-interactive, therefore real. And we know that the universe contains content and is itself a thing, but that content may not always be physical and everything that interacts need not always be physical. It's like looking at your image in a mirror, we think it's real, but it's not. It's only an image. Hence, the physical world is an appearance/ mirage perceived by the senses where perceptual reality is strictly information. Hence, the monic term info-cognition as coined by the CTMU.
Atheism is essentially an open minded point of view. We don't know everything about the nature of things, but we are open to finding out more. This is the opposite of a faith based religious point of view in which proponents have faith that things just are the way they believe things are, and nothing can change that opinion.
 
We aren't attacking ideas, but claims about reality. Atheism is compatible with the scientific effort to understand more about our world. It seems that faith is the opposite of discovery, it's about conclusions.

Consciousness is the most amazing and magical thing in the (known) universe; it's the most important thing in our lives. It's so amazing that science doesn't know how to create it.
 
We aren't attacking ideas, but claims about reality. Atheism is compatible with the scientific effort to understand more about our world. It seems that faith is the opposite of discovery, it's about conclusions.

Consciousness is the most amazing and magical thing in the (known) universe; it's the most important thing in our lives. It's so amazing that science doesn't know how to create it.
 
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