It's against my religion or my way to lie, I have alot of experience in living in many places in the Muslim world. I can assure you that it is not common.
I understand, but you may give off "don't mess with me" vibes to the "so inclined", at 52 years old, I have never been propositioned by men, though women, now that is an other matter ;-)
My friend, we don't have to resort to racism. We can talk like civilized men that we are.
I wasn't being racist, I was joking around, you must be touchy about your looks or your race?
seems to me, that you either are very stern looking (an imam perhaps), or your reputation proceeds you or or you do not understand the world around you (like obvious hints or evidence) or you have lead a very sheltered life indeed
I have read plenty about Islamic history and I have never heard of such a thing practiced by the Ottomans.
you need to find a more comprehensive library, that does not hide the truth or sugar-coat it
you have access to the internet, use google, ask.com, yahoo, if you don't believe me
I was commenting on 1. that Islam deems this act acceptable, as alleged by WildBlue 2. that it is prevalent in Afghanistan or other places in the Middle East.
Islam forbids this act, and it is uncommon in Afghanistan. However, we cannot say it does not exist, but it is rare, most likely practiced by the more secular individuals in Afghanistan (who, in Afghanistan, are extremely rare).
ho hum, human nature is perverse, without a conscience people do what they want, when they want to, wherever they want to
2 diff USAF airmen told basically the same story about Ramadan
around 1977, my sup Ramon C-O, told me about being at Wheelis AFB in Libya, that during Ramadan all the local men would want to break the gates to have sex with airmen,
around 1988, my college room-mate, ex-USAF told me that in Izmir Air Force Base, Turkey, that the reason turks wore those puffy pants (like MJ Hammer), was that during Ramadan, males would sodomize each other, then save their poop, to inspect just in case they gave birth to the madhi, which to them would be born of a man
hey, I didn't make that up, what say you?
I don't understand where exactly WildBlue is coming from as in America, 10% of the entire US population is homosexual, this is almost 26 million people (rough estimate).
so? is that supposed to mean something?
I prefer people that are truthful about who & what they are; not coy, hidden lives, that way you know where they stand & why, otherwise you have to try to understand their motives, desires, goals, a much harder proposition that way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_the_Middle_East
The valorization of youthful male beauty is found in the Qur'an itself: "And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls." (Qur’an 52:24; 56:17; 76:19). Islamic jurisprudence generally considers that attraction towards beautiful youths is normal and natural. The Hanbalite jurist Ibn al-Jawzi (d. 1200) is reputed to have said that "He who claims that he experiences no desire when looking at beautiful boys or youths is a liar, and if we could believe him he would be an animal, and not a human being." [5] However, anal intercourse (liwat), is proscribed and men are advised to be even more wary of attraction to beautiful boys than to beautiful women, through religious injunctions exhorting them to resist this temptation. It is related that the Prophet Muhammad enjoined his followers to "Beware of beardless youth for they are a greater source of mischief than young maidens." [6]
Likewise, the imam and legal scholar Sufyan at-Thawri (d. 783 CE) asserted, regarding sexual temptation, that "If every woman has one devil accompanying her, then a handsome lad has seventeen."[7]
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In Islamic Persia, where, as Louis Crompton claims, "boy love flourished spectacularly," literature also made frequent use of the pederastic topos, often referred to as baccheh bazi, (the boy game). Omar Khayyám's (d. 1123) quatrains, Attar (d. 1220), Rumi (d. 1273), Sa'adi (d. 1291) in his Rose Garden, Hafez Shirazi (d. 1389) in his ghazals, Jami (d. 1492), and even Iraj Mirza (d. 1926) wrote works "replete with homoerotic allusions, as well as explicit references to beautiful young boys and to the practice of pederasty." [16]
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In the Ottoman empire, same-sex relations between men and youths were often of a mercantile nature. The sex workers involved - who were never Muslims but were youths bought or levied or captured from neighboring nations, such as Armenia, Greece, and the Balkan states - were either entertainers such as the köçeks or masseurs in the hammams known as tellak. The köçek tradition was a central element of Ottoman culture, flourishing from the seventeenth to the nineteenth centuries. It was brought to an end by its very success in that the competition for the handsome boy dancers became a threat to public order, and the practice was banned in 1856 under the reign of Sultan Abd-ul-Mejid I.
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The sexual doings of the Turks came under frequent criticism by their Christian neighbors. The Chronicles of the Moldavian Land mention that the Ottomans upon the sack of Crimea in 1475, sailed away with a galleon filled with one hundred and fifty young boys destined for "the filthy sodomy of the whoring Turk." Thomas Sherley, held captive by the Ottomans between 1603 and 1605 under harsh circumstances, reported in his Discourse of the Turks that "For their Sodommerye they use it soe publiquely and impudentlye as an honest Christian woulde shame to companye his wyffe as they do with their buggeringe boys.
