Not that I want to get into the "Debate" that I have been in and am well over arguing anymore, but free will cannot exist if God has created everything and it is all a part of "The Plan".
Unfortunately for people like me, who look into the logic of things before he "believes" them this idea seems to be the LARGEST discrepency in beliefs amongst Christians. That at once, God knows and creates and has his hand in EVERYTHING, yet has NO control over your ability to believe in Him or reject Him. This is utterly and entirely contradictory...no matter what it "says" in the bible. He either controls everything or he doesn't. Simple...
Don't feel bad. Most people who believe in Jesus don't understand this either. I spend a lot of time talking about this to a lot of people and most have not been given understanding. And in truth it is not the level of understanding that a person needs to have eternity with God. But many poeple use God predestination as a kind of justification for hating Him. But in truth they cannot understand that it is Gods Foreknowledge that allows Him to have pre-determined the eternal destination of all who have lived. And that Foreknowledge also allows us to have our free will. Pretty important word Foreknowledge.
If I give a 5 year old a book, and never teach him to read it, is it safe to say that the child ALONE is responsible for understanding the information in it?
Well we have a reading ability it is called a conscience. Even if people have shounted it down during their lives and pretty much silenced it. The fact is they had it but rebelled against it.
Is it safe to say that if there are rules and regulations that the child is expected to follow and he does not follow them that it is by the child's own direct disboediance that he has not followed them...or that the rules themselves made no sense to him? That the rules just looked like foreign and unknown squibbles put together into incoherent (to someone unable to read) combinations?
2 Corinthians 4
1 Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
Just the same, if my brain operates on logic, and understanding, and a very strong curiosity for the nature of the universe, and then is presented with a book that is very "human" very simplistic, and banal, very much like a fable or a childrens story when in relation to the complexity of existence (i.e. Sodom was evil, Sodom was punsihed. The wicked were bad, and bad things happened to bad people. Moses was faithful and obedient Moses was rewarded...)
You brain operates on self pride and arrogance and confidance in its self. Not realising compared to God your a dumb ass moron. I always get a laugh when people stand up with pride and gloat over their intellectual superiority.
Yes, all this is well and good, but, I ask, why is it the E=MC^2?
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I ask, now that I am in a civilized and cultured world, where man has developed great things and has transcended his ancestors, where the world is less about how much "grain" one can produce in a given season, and more about the longevity of his community's grain?
Ohhh the pride.. I can almost hear trumpets blowing.
Where the world has structure and government, and at least a semblance of order that these stories of inquity and tyranny, and corruption fit into my everyday world? I would punish a corrupt governor, NOT because God tells me so, but because it is harmful to society...I would promote punishment from theft, NOT because it is written that "Thou shalt not" but because if thou did it would equally be detrimental to a society where correspondence and companionship, and teamwork and success itself REQUIRE that one shouldn't steal from his neighbor? What value does this book have to the man of today?
When are you going to punish yourself? No wonder you cannot understand.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days