Homosexual laws?
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Lady,
i can see how some of those laws can be seen as unfair. Such as the forcing of private groups to acept gays. But what about marrige and what not? Who does that hurt? Is someone being discriminated against if two men marry each other?
i can see how some of those laws can be seen as unfair. Such as the forcing of private groups to acept gays. But what about marrige and what not? Who does that hurt? Is someone being discriminated against if two men marry each other?
"Can you please quote a major gay organization asking to legalize sex acts not involving sodomy? And don't quote your little list again - that list is not from a gay organization and it hardly represents the wishes of the "gay community" as their is no political part which represents gays."
I felt I needed to ask this again, as you obviously didn't understand it the first time.
Lady - the way a debate works if you can't answer my question it is assumed that I am right. You obviously can either not speak English or cannot answer the question.
I felt I needed to ask this again, as you obviously didn't understand it the first time.
Lady - the way a debate works if you can't answer my question it is assumed that I am right. You obviously can either not speak English or cannot answer the question.
Actually I am. But the difference is Im not putting down a whole slew of people and trying to justify it at the same time.
Everyone has been discriminated against, myself included. The whole point of these laws would be to try and some of the discriminating.
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Bashing? Im trying to get some insight in why she thinks the way she does, she is just not doing a very good job at expressing herself properly
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"Boo- hoo- hoo, who hasn't been discriminated against? I don't care if they burn in hell or not ( their choice) nor is it my decision. But I stick to my point the law's discriminate against other people.Can you prove me wrong?"
1) Who's been descriminated against by the laws?
2) If, say, one group of people was descriminated against by the government does that make it alright to descriminate against all groups?
-- Lady, your logic seems to indicate that you believe that it's okay for the government to descriminate against gays because they've descriminated against other people. Well, let's transport you back in time a while. Had you been this age 50 years ago or so this logic would have made you 100% against Blacks having rights. And before that, women.
3) I don't think I've ever been really descriminated against; except for as a drug user which the goverment launches largely lie-filled propoganda against.
1) Who's been descriminated against by the laws?
2) If, say, one group of people was descriminated against by the government does that make it alright to descriminate against all groups?
-- Lady, your logic seems to indicate that you believe that it's okay for the government to descriminate against gays because they've descriminated against other people. Well, let's transport you back in time a while. Had you been this age 50 years ago or so this logic would have made you 100% against Blacks having rights. And before that, women.
3) I don't think I've ever been really descriminated against; except for as a drug user which the goverment launches largely lie-filled propoganda against.
http://www.carolinamessenger.org
This is the correct link go to the Editors note
This is where I got the proposed law's. He doesn't name individual group but as a collection instead. Check it out
This is the correct link go to the Editors note
This is where I got the proposed law's. He doesn't name individual group but as a collection instead. Check it out
Lady--what IS your problem?
Damn, now I have to ask: Are you ignoring the point or just stupid?
It doesn't have to be a gene, Lady. Science is an ongoing process. They're still trying to figure out exactly how an XY chromosome set can result in a female human being. All evidence points to testosterone deficiency in utero.
Any number of hormonal issues could turn out to be responsible for one's sexual orientation. Or it could be mere social conditioning. Or it could be a combination of genes. Or it could be a combination of all those factors.
Is that easy enough for you to comprehend? Or is it easy enough for you to ignore?
Let me clarify for you, since you have a problem with such issues: Please show evidence supporting the assertion. As noted above, an assertion does not evidence make.
How long should anyone, such as a homosexual, respect their persecutor who has no respect for them? Christians have an obligation to turn the other cheek. Not all homosexuals do, as not all homosexuals believe in the Bible.
Again, please provide evidence to support the assertion, and not merely restate the assertion.
Care to try again?
thanx,
Tiassa
Umm ... Lady? That does not constitute evidence. That constitutes an assertion, that needs to be backed by evidence.
Sigh.
Damn, now I have to ask: Are you ignoring the point or just stupid?
It doesn't have to be a gene, Lady. Science is an ongoing process. They're still trying to figure out exactly how an XY chromosome set can result in a female human being. All evidence points to testosterone deficiency in utero.
Any number of hormonal issues could turn out to be responsible for one's sexual orientation. Or it could be mere social conditioning. Or it could be a combination of genes. Or it could be a combination of all those factors.
Is that easy enough for you to comprehend? Or is it easy enough for you to ignore?
Please show evidence of that.
Let me clarify for you, since you have a problem with such issues: Please show evidence supporting the assertion. As noted above, an assertion does not evidence make.
Please provide evidence of laws attacking churches.
How long should anyone, such as a homosexual, respect their persecutor who has no respect for them? Christians have an obligation to turn the other cheek. Not all homosexuals do, as not all homosexuals believe in the Bible.
Again, please provide evidence to support the assertion, and not merely restate the assertion.
For the nth time, please provide evidence to support that assertion.
Shout it as loud as you can, if you want. It doesn't really mean much until you provide evidence to support your assertions.
Okay ... I see the Editor's Page, but I don't see any proposed laws.
Care to try again?
thanx,
Tiassa
iginally posted by Tyler [/i]
"Boo- hoo- hoo, who hasn't been discriminated against? I don't care if they burn in hell or not ( their choice) nor is it my decision. But I stick to my point the law's discriminate against other people.Can you prove me wrong?"
3) I don't think I've ever been really descriminated against; except for as a drug user which the goverment launches largely lie-filled propoganda against. [/QUOTE]
** Read them?
**Ask the government and while questioning them ask if blacks will ever get reparations?
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**Unlike ethnicity and race homosexality is not viewed as something inborn or designed by God, but rather a sexual choice. One group is hated for that which is beyond their control unlike the other. Futhermore, not all are going to agree with homosexuality- that's life.
"Boo- hoo- hoo, who hasn't been discriminated against? I don't care if they burn in hell or not ( their choice) nor is it my decision. But I stick to my point the law's discriminate against other people.Can you prove me wrong?"
3) I don't think I've ever been really descriminated against; except for as a drug user which the goverment launches largely lie-filled propoganda against. [/QUOTE]
** Read them?
**Ask the government and while questioning them ask if blacks will ever get reparations?
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**Unlike ethnicity and race homosexality is not viewed as something inborn or designed by God, but rather a sexual choice. One group is hated for that which is beyond their control unlike the other. Futhermore, not all are going to agree with homosexuality- that's life.
Re: Lady--what IS your problem?
Originally posted by tiassa
Umm ... Lady? That does not constitute evidence. That constitutes an assertion, that needs to be backed by evidence.Sigh.
Damn, now I have to ask: Are you ignoring the point or just stupid?
It doesn't have to be a gene, Lady. Science is an ongoing process. They're still trying to figure out exactly how an XY chromosome set can result in a female human being. All evidence points to testosterone deficiency in utero.
Any number of hormonal issues could turn out to be responsible for one's sexual orientation. Or it could be mere social conditioning. Or it could be a combination of genes. Or it could be a combination of all those factors.
Is that easy enough for you to comprehend? Or is it easy enough for you to ignore?Please show evidence of that.
Let me clarify for you, since you have a problem with such issues: Please show evidence supporting the assertion. As noted above, an assertion does not evidence make.Please provide evidence of laws attacking churches.
How long should anyone, such as a homosexual, respect their persecutor who has no respect for them? Christians have an obligation to turn the other cheek. Not all homosexuals do, as not all homosexuals believe in the Bible.
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Care to try again?
thanx,
Tiassa
gain, please provide evidence to support the assertion, and not merely restate the assertion.For the nth time, please provide evidence to support that assertion.Shout it as loud as you can, if you want. It doesn't really mean much until you provide evidence to support your assertions.Okay ... I see the Editor's Page, but I don't see any proposed laws.
** I'm sure he didn't pull this out of thin air?His email address is available if you really want to find out more info. Anyways are you saying the homosexuals don't want any of these law's? That it's all just a big mix up?
It doesn't have to be a gene, Lady. Science is an ongoing process. They're still trying to figure out exactly how an XY chromosome set can result in a female human being. All evidence points to testosterone deficiency in utero.
Any number of hormonal issues could turn out to be responsible for one's sexual orientation. Or it could be mere social conditioning. Or it could be a combination of genes. Or it could be a combination of all those factors.
** They need to figure Aids out? And it's a choice.... You do it or You don't
** I'm sure he didn't pull this out of thin air?His email address is available if you really want to find out more info. Anyways are you saying the homosexuals don't want any of these law's? That it's all just a big mix up?
It doesn't have to be a gene, Lady. Science is an ongoing process. They're still trying to figure out exactly how an XY chromosome set can result in a female human being. All evidence points to testosterone deficiency in utero.
Any number of hormonal issues could turn out to be responsible for one's sexual orientation. Or it could be mere social conditioning. Or it could be a combination of genes. Or it could be a combination of all those factors.
** They need to figure Aids out? And it's a choice.... You do it or You don't
"This is where I got the proposed law's. He doesn't name individual group but as a collection instead. Check it out"
I checked it out. It's basically someone on your side of the arguement who is making an assertion without any backing. Again, you're going to have to quote some homosexual group asking for this otherwise it's a simple assertion. So far, you don't seem to understand the difference between "proof" and "assertion".
"I'm sure he didn't pull this out of thin air?His email address is available if you really want to find out more info. Anyways are you saying the homosexuals don't want any of these law's? That it's all just a big mix up?"
Often, people do pull things out of thin air. Creationists have been known to do it all the time. And we're not saying that homosexuals dont want some/all of these laws. Personally, I don't know all homosexuals in the world. And I've yet to hear of a homosexual group requesting beastiality or other such acts to be legalized. Lady, listen, in debate there is a difference between assertion and proof.
Please choose which one you wish to make.
I checked it out. It's basically someone on your side of the arguement who is making an assertion without any backing. Again, you're going to have to quote some homosexual group asking for this otherwise it's a simple assertion. So far, you don't seem to understand the difference between "proof" and "assertion".
"I'm sure he didn't pull this out of thin air?His email address is available if you really want to find out more info. Anyways are you saying the homosexuals don't want any of these law's? That it's all just a big mix up?"
Often, people do pull things out of thin air. Creationists have been known to do it all the time. And we're not saying that homosexuals dont want some/all of these laws. Personally, I don't know all homosexuals in the world. And I've yet to hear of a homosexual group requesting beastiality or other such acts to be legalized. Lady, listen, in debate there is a difference between assertion and proof.
Please choose which one you wish to make.
Start making sense. Please?
Oh, wait, that's an album title.
Please start making sense.
You have yet to provide evidence of these laws. Whether they are good laws or not depends on how they are written. If you would be so kind as to provide an iota of evidence to back up your assertions (e.g. the proposed laws) I might be able to make an assessment.
If you don't want to talk about it, Lady, then don't bring it up. How simple is that?
What is your stake, then, in Biblically-oriented values if you're not a Christian?
--Tiassa
Well, stop giving bad links.
Stop making sense.
Oh, wait, that's an album title.
Please start making sense.
You have yet to provide evidence of these laws. Whether they are good laws or not depends on how they are written. If you would be so kind as to provide an iota of evidence to back up your assertions (e.g. the proposed laws) I might be able to make an assessment.
If that made any sort of sense, it might be funny. As it is, its only laugh value comes if I decide to be cruel enough to enjoy the absolutely amazing lack of intellect you display.
If you don't want to talk about it, Lady, then don't bring it up. How simple is that?
What is your stake, then, in Biblically-oriented values if you're not a Christian?
--Tiassa
ATENTION!!!!!!!!
im bowing to public pressure
in NOT DELETING this thread i mean
henceforth it will remain AS A REFERENCE ONLY
it will NOT be reopened
however 2 new CLEAN THREADS will be opened (i really dont know what im going to put in the opening post but oh well)
one will be opened HERE and one in RELIGION
any posts that dont belong in those threads will be deleted
so no god said so in ethics anymore
im bowing to public pressure
in NOT DELETING this thread i mean
henceforth it will remain AS A REFERENCE ONLY
it will NOT be reopened
however 2 new CLEAN THREADS will be opened (i really dont know what im going to put in the opening post but oh well)
one will be opened HERE and one in RELIGION
any posts that dont belong in those threads will be deleted
so no god said so in ethics anymore
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