Ya it's usually a good or bad "trip".
He feels a "presence" while asleep????
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Ya it's usually a good or bad "trip".
Yeah that or just anxiety, or those kind of quasi-hallucinations you get when you're falling asleep and starting to dream.
Anyone have this?
Well, I understand the paralyzing feeling. I see a lot of people have that. But, does anyone literally pulls them self out of bed and still feel the pressure as they are trying to drag themselves toward the door or where ever? It's been happening to me since I was a child. It was on very rare occasion it was this bad. But recently for the past 3 months its been happening 2-4 times a week. BTW I am pretty stress free, really don't worry about anything. I just want to know if anyone has heard of someone having this or has this themselves. I don't really believe in demons or angels. I'm just a little confused to what is going on.
Well, I understand the paralyzing feeling. I see a lot of people have that. But, does anyone literally pulls them self out of bed and still feel the pressure as they are trying to drag themselves toward the door or where ever? It's been happening to me since I was a child. It was on very rare occasion it was this bad. But recently for the past 3 months its been happening 2-4 times a week. BTW I am pretty stress free, really don't worry about anything. I just want to know if anyone has heard of someone having this or has this themselves. I don't really believe in demons or angels. I'm just a little confused to what is going on.
The lingering pressure of the experience may be due to adrenaline. As crunchy cat said:
You may be experiencing stress, but not even be aware of it. Be advised that napping can lead to Sleep paralysis, not just during the nap, but later at night as well. This due to the napping throwing off the natural sleep cycles.
Other contributing factors are overheating while you sleep. If you use a lot of blankets and/or wear pajamas, consider lightening the load.
Sleeping on your back can also induce sleep paralysis.
Oversleeping can also contribute.
I used to have it frequently as a child, not the only time I get it is when I take naps. And if I sleep longer than 10 hours, I am likely to have it happen.
Yep, all true.
I would imagine the thyroid problem has a lot to do with it. Have you mentioned it to your doctor?
I forgot to mention above that I also get it more often in the summer when my room gets hotter.
Did you also suffer from this Crunchy?
Now that I'm thinking about it, I also remember someone saying once that what is actually going on is that the part of the brain that is responsible for consciousness is waking up before the part of the brain that is responsible for movement. I'm unable to find info to verify that though. Any thoughts?
When sleep paralysis ends, so does the hallucination. If you experience yourself pulling yourself towards the door then one of the following might be happening:
* You are slipping back into a dream from a hypnopompic state without any break in consciousness and the pulling-yourself-along experience isn't real.
* Your body's natural paralysis is partially defective.
Either way, just relax and enjoy the show; however, if you do experience muscle aching / extreme headaches after fully awake then I would recommend seeing a doctor.
Sleep more.
I wouldn't call it suffering
, but yes I did and still do get the hypnopompic / paralysis combo from time to time. A few years back I was faked out by hypnopompia... I woke up (presumably paralyzed), saw a huge spider on my pillow, emoted some adrenalin into my system, and leaped out of bed. I'm usually pretty good about recognizing and enjoying the ride otherwise.What you stated about the conscious brain "waking up" before the rest of the body (technically the rest of the brain responsible for the body's rest cycle) is quite correct. That's presumably why paralysis sets in. It's just another state humans can get into and evolution has done it's job by not wasting it and giving us all sorts of fun hallucinations while in it.
I wouldn't call it suffering
What you stated about the conscious brain "waking up" before the rest of the body (technically the rest brain responsible for the body's rest cycle) is quite correct. That's presumably why paralysis sets in. It's just another state humans can get into and evolution has done it's job by not wasting it and giving us all sorts of fun hallucinations while in it.
Yeah, I hated it when I was a kid, but then when I was a teenager, I would try to make it happen all the time. I actually got pretty good at it. Now it causes me a little discomfort, only because I'm not expecting it to happen. Kind of like the difference between willingly taking a drug, and having a mischievous friend slip something into your drink
sucks at first, but once they tell you what they did its like, "oh, ok... cool"I don't think I would like it if it was happening as often as mrshlongy says he is having it though.
I bet if he got some sleep he would experience it alot less. My hypothesis on that is less sleep increases vulnerability and to compensate his brain is putting him through more threat simulations ala hypnopompia.
i literally do it
I literally pull myself towards the door with the pressure still on my back. I am awake or pretty sure I am. Bottom line is i end up at the door when I "wake up"
I try to sleep more, but i can't sleep any more than that. I'm pretty sure it can't be related to my thyroid problem.
I literally pull myself towards the door with the pressure still on my back. I am awake or pretty sure I am. Bottom line is i end up at the door when I "wake up"
I try to sleep more, but i can't sleep any more than that. I'm pretty sure it can't be related to my thyroid problem.
I have had it on 3 occasions I remember,
1) in Guernsey- I felt there was something invisible on my chest..........
2) in Bromsgrove - I was on my side when I could feel someone behind me, I forced myself up when I felt a hand on my shoulder.....
3)in Italy when I heard and saw a dog (I was dreaming about police with dogs before I semi-woke),it took what seemed like ages for me to scream help then realised that I was scared of my unpacked clothes on the other bed..
On each occasion I had only (It was all whilst working at various hotels) been at the place for 1-3 days so in my case it was probably down to sleeping in strange/new places.....each time scared the poop out of me though.
http://drhotzeblog.netymology.com/2006/10/31/is-the-thyroid-keeping-you-up-at-night/
I don't know too much about the thyroid but had a look to see if there was any relavence to sleep patterns and it seems there is here is some links you may find helpful..
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/fatigueenergy/a/exhausted.htm
http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070808094704.htm
The one significant experience I remember of my own sleep paralysis was right after my friend was murdered. I woke up and couldn't speak or scream or move and there was a dark shadow, a man in a hooded sweat-shirt, standing next to my bed. It was f*ing terrifying.
Now...I consider several explanations for this experience when I think about it. One...drugs, alcohol, sleeping pills...any of the above can instigate sleep paralysis and hallucinations. Two...anxiety...as many people have mentioned on this thread. I was destroyed by the violent and horrible circumstances of my friends death and wasn't sleeping well. Three...night terrors. I used to have them alot...have them occasionally as an adult...don't really know if they are the same thing. Lastly, if I were to consider the supernatural side of things...maybe it was my friend...maybe it was some outside entity trying to communicate...who the hell knows.
I do know, though, that my BF's roommate experiences sleep paralysis constantly and is CONVINCED there is a ghost in the stupid Townhouse. I tell him he shouldn't smoke crack...literally...but hey, that's just me. Drugs can induce this phenomena quite easily when you've taken TOO many. Just an idea.
Now...I consider several explanations for this experience when I think about it. One...drugs, alcohol, sleeping pills...any of the above can instigate sleep paralysis and hallucinations. Two...anxiety...as many people have mentioned on this thread. I was destroyed by the violent and horrible circumstances of my friends death and wasn't sleeping well. Three...night terrors. I used to have them alot...have them occasionally as an adult...don't really know if they are the same thing. Lastly, if I were to consider the supernatural side of things...maybe it was my friend...maybe it was some outside entity trying to communicate...who the hell knows.
I do know, though, that my BF's roommate experiences sleep paralysis constantly and is CONVINCED there is a ghost in the stupid Townhouse. I tell him he shouldn't smoke crack...literally...but hey, that's just me. Drugs can induce this phenomena quite easily when you've taken TOO many. Just an idea.
I have dreamed of the same house at least 3 times already. It's nowhere I recognize, but it has developed. In the first dream, it will new, and the backyard was full of dirt, the forest trees being recently dug up. Last night, it was already complete, and the neighborhood was becoming more urban. It was a college town, and the kids were walking down the street handing out bunches of marijuana like flowers. I had rented out some of the rooms. There was a stream behind it, and a wooden pedestrian bridge the first time. In the later dream, there were stores and restaurants built up around it. Maybe I will find this place in reality someday.
Here's something that might help, quit dragging yourself across the floor
. There's no reason for it.Well, I can probably help you narrow down the causes. Sleep paralysis with hypnopompic hallucination is 100% normal and will happen.
1) Drugs might influence it.
2) Anxiety might influence it.
3) Night terrors are likely unrelated (that's a sleep disorder).
4) The paranormal doesn't exist.