That is false.
I forced RPenner and AN to retreat from this thread in this forum.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?135721-Apparant-2-directions/page4
Gravity slows down time.
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That is false.
I forced RPenner and AN to retreat from this thread in this forum.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?135721-Apparant-2-directions/page4
No its true, and all forumites recognise that fact and the fact that you are only able to discuss your paranoid fixation in pseudoscience.
MMX is a false and outdated experiment.
I posted a link in this forum for an IOP article showing MMX can't detect the earth's rotational sagnac. Look for the apparent 2 directions thread I think.
Anyway, for all those that worshiped null MMX results in support of SR, they were never actually null.
So, its
I can only discuss it here based on forum rules.
Anyway, can you use math or science to refute my proven facts?
Glad you accept it as pseudoscience.
[1] Your facts are not facts but a delusional fixation and pseudoscience as pointed out mathematically by other SR/GR experts.
[2] No, I am not attuned to SR/GR Mathematically, but I do know enough, and have seen enough explanatory videos and explanations, to have a reasonable layman's grasp on it....Which puts me at least two rungs above your understanding.
As I said, the rules of this site put my discussions in pseudo. So, that does not make their views a fact.
your other statement is not worth discussing.
The rules are based on and follow the accepted scientific methodology.
You refuse to accept the accepted scientific methodolgy.
You ignore any logical refutaion against your idea.
You are plainly wrong but refuse to accept that fact....
That leads one to conclude that you are trolling...something you are a success at.
You are wrong.
The rules of this forum are based on human opinion. Maybe you worship the opinion of others, I don't
Anyway, can you refute my logic yes or no?
Are you saying every observer in the solar system disagrees on the position of the earth at any given instant?
If not, then we have a notion of absolute time in this solar system, contrary to the views of SR.
See?? There's that paranoid fixation again....
Let me straighten you out...
The rules of the forum are modeled on the accepted scientific methodology...Got it??
With your other question, just as I told the other turkey, the question has been answered by many, many times....
If you through your ignorance and prejudice chose to ignore it, that's no skin off my nose, nor society's in general.
We/they accept the SR/GR model as supported by all the observational and experimental evidence since 2005.
I think it is nice you have views of adherence to others.
Anyway, can you refute my arguments using logic yes or no.
Unfortunately, saying it doesn't make it true. Can you prove that planetary motion is absolute?chinglu said:
You're claiming something that nobody else actually claimed. You make this claim because it supports your campaign against a theory you've also made clear is not one you understand, even in "simple" terms.
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Well of course they would, and for the same reason people on different sides of a racetrack disagree about where the runners are.
I have been doing some checking out at different sections of the forum as a whole, and came upon a gem of a "discussion" in the "formal debates" sub forum.
The thread is entitled "Time paradox in Special Relativity Theory."as initiated by a forumite called Emil, with the opening post as follows.......
"" I want to show that there is time paradox in SRT.
I challenge anyone who says that this paradox is a false paradox.
I will present a concrete situation where is time paradox.
Who responds to the challenge will need to show that there is no time paradox.""
Some excellent rubuttal replies from Rpenner, Tach, and others. I learnt quite a bit .
Many examples of silly assumptions by the initiator trying to invalidate SR, but as in this current discussion, not doing anything other then showing their gross ignorance and and incredible prejudice against the scientific pillars of SR/GR.
I have always been a facts/analogy/methodology type with regards to scientific models, but now wish I was more attuned to the mathematics side of things after seeing the brilliant rebuttals backed by the maths, from the previous mentioned contributors.
I see it as very relevant to this debacle but do not have too much hope that lessons can be learnt by our fanatical anti SR/GR pushers in this thread.
Delusional as usual, you Nut Job. The DEBACLE, has been caused by your ..
a) YOUR SELF ADMITTED derailing of this thread,
b) YOUR KEYSTONE COPS style of defence of science, of which most real scientists would be horrorfied
c) YOUR FRAUDULENT representations which you haven't answered to or withdrawn.
Edit - inserted SELF ADMITTED
Maybe I was wrong in believing you could read......Or more likely it's that paranoid fixation again......
Let me reiterate...
Your question has been answered many many times, and I being of sound mind and body, see no future in answering you again, other then to say, my views are my own and based on logic and what I have learnt from far more reputable people then yourself.
That answer of course is based on every bit of observational and experimental data science has received since 2005.
You are on your own with your view...Good luck with it, you'll need it.
Plus of course he has arrogantly ignored a very simplistic u tube video of how and why Time dilation and length contraction do take place, along with every other post explaining the situation.
Then we get the usual ignorant reply!
As previously mentioned, by Russ I recall, most would really like to ignore such ignorance and anti SR/GR prejudice, except for the danger of some child taking one of his posts as the standard accepted situation.
That is the real shame in all of this.
Nut Job, you are lifting stuff of posts gone by, to create some facade of support for your Keystone Cops style of defence of science.
Nut Job, these forums under 'On The Fringe, Psuedoscience, Alternative theories', are EXACTLY where these things should be dicussed. THAT is the proprietors intention. Who are you to dictate that it should be ignored ? Nut Job!
And Fraudster, you have not yet replied to your fraudulent representations against me.
Yep, your continuing stubborn headed willful ignorance will sometimes lead intelligent people to just shake their heads and walk away. You must be so proud...:shrug:
Yep, I'm sure that's the way it happened....I dips me lid to Rpenner and AN in their efforts so far, although to no avail...
I suppose to use an analogy, it's like trying to crack a pumpkin with a tooth pick.....or to go one better, he could be analogious to the three wise monkeys wrapped up into one!
That's incorrect also, but please, lets not bring in a new error to deal with quite yet. We have plenty of errors to deal with that you haven't properly addressed; adding new ones just makes the mess even deeper. So again, please:
If I run a race in 10 seconds and you have a clock that erroneously runs half as fast as it should, how much time will your clock say it took to complete the race?
I'm trying to establish with this question that you understand what time is and how it works on a basic level. Because statements you've made imply that you don't understand the point of time.
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