Hellenologophobia
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They suggested that I re-read the book of Job. I think it is safe to assume what they were insinuating. They’re not my parents.
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They suggested that I re-read the book of Job. I think it is safe to assume what they were insinuating. They’re not my parents.
Hellenologophobia
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Because it shows how God even test the pious. If he does this, what would he do to the unbeliever? Trust me, we've had long conversations about this. I know what they meant by it.
What a horrible thing to hold up as an example. Job was a good man who believed in god, and god treated him like shit just to prove a point to satan. What a dick.
who else better to declare me? you have to realize signal that not everyone is as codependent as you are. i don't need someone else to tell me who or what i am.
Non , My Mothers an Atheist and my Daughter , plus My Son who is going to save you asses cause he is the son of righteousness ( his Mother not Me , I am the devil that kills ) They sufer no ill affects for being Atheist , First thing is they don't talk about it to much cause it ain't wporth the time
i would argue that the best that you can be ultimately is perfect, otherwise what are you striving towards? perfection is not relative; perfection is mathematical. i would also argue that perfection would not detract from our individuality. i think it would actually enhance it. like you said, the best YOU that you can be.
i'm also not talking about religious demands; i'm talking about an inherent and/or genetic condition that would render religion obsolete. i'm not talking about some form of discipline, but a natural instinct.
finally, if you're going to cite the bible, and talk about sin, then how can you not also refer to the purpose of christ? i don't understand.
it's actually about genetics, which if i'm not mistaken is at the forefront of science.
You said God is perfect then said you did not know if God knew He was perfect. Therefore your stating that you know something about God you don't think He is sure of.
Good example.
I never said perfection was in this world. Try and read what i say for once.
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I never did, I said God requires us to be perfect " In Eternity " Thats in the eternal resurected state. You really have a problem in understanding don't you.
Looks like you have succeded is deluding yourself.
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Just a made up statement with no arguments that i have heard 10,000 times before.....
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I’ve never asked for anything and they’ve never offered.
My family is predominately Christians. I just received some bad news regarding my daughter’s health.
Two of my family members said, “Well, are you finished being an atheist, now?"
They're implying that it's my fault. That God is punishing my daughter because of me.Can you believe this?
Hi Hellenologophobia,
I'm a new user and have been reading through the threads and this one really stopped me in my tracks. First off I like to say that I hope your daughter makes a speedy recovery and secondly I have two questions:
1. Small point, but why have our family never offered you anything? I presume this is a reference to help in a crisis of some sort and I am wondering does it now extend to your daughter's illness? That sort of inaction doesn't strike me as very Christian. So I suppose what I'm asking is: where does their interpretation of what god wants come from? Their own experiences and an indepth knowledge of god or the fire and brimstone interpretation of a third party?
2. Why do they believe that a god is punishing your daughter for your beliefs? Why not for her own beliefs or even you for your beliefs? Where has this point of view come from?
The reason I ask is if it comes from a bible-thumping, god-bothering preacher of some sort then they are nothing more than sheep and their opinions mean nothing, because they are not theirs. Show some sympathy if you can, ignore them if you must, but you have other issues that need your attention and they are far more important.
If, on the other hand, they come from a deep understanding of cause and effect or how the universe works or an intimate knowledge of the mind of god then I for one would listen to them to try and learn this knowledge. It would be life altering. However, if they have no knowledge of how these things work then maybe you should show some sympathy if you can, ignore them if you must, but you have other issues that need your attention and they are far more important.
Regards, RR.
P.S. Hello SciForums :wave:
And he's been very clear, I'll be at his side.
exactly..i said 'i don't know'
so how do you work out that i said 'i know'?
so you resort to insults?
what is that about?
did not say you have to believe as i believe..
I don't mind you believing what you believe.
I don't like people who don't care to actually read what i say and then proceed to tell me i said something that i never said. Or they do read what i say but go on and say i said something i never said in an effort to wilfully misrepresent me. That’s what P's me off.
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