God kills American soldiers as retribution for gay tolerance

Scope is not the issue, behavior is...there is no change in God's behavior between the OT and NT. Again, if there was, Paul's warning to the Christians in Rome and Corinth would be unnecessary.

If there were no change in behavior in God, then there would be more Sodoms and Gammorahs from the time of Jesus to the time of Revelations. There aren't. How do you account for that?
 
If there were no change in behavior in God, then there would be more Sodoms and Gammorahs from the time of Jesus to the time of Revelations. There aren't. How do you account for that?

Not necessarily. What it shows is that, on balance, God is gracious and kind... longsuffering, patient. Occaisionally smiting here and there...pssst, No telling who He'll smite next though.

LOL! "Gammorahs"? What's that...some Japanese movie monster?
 
Not necessarily. What it shows is that, on balance, God is gracious and kind... longsuffering, patient. Occaisionally smiting here and there...pssst, No telling who He'll smite next though.

LOL! "Gammorahs"? What's that...some Japanese movie monster?

Heh, alright Photizo; I give. I was just so scared he was gonna come smite New York City next, I guess I started going a little nuts.
 
Heh, alright Photizo; I give. I was just so scared he was gonna come smite New York City next, I guess I started going a little nuts.

Take care, ashura...also, repeatedly we are told in God's Word "don't be afraid", and "fear not"... :)
 
Yes, and you'll notice that I did mention that. But again, that's not till the very end when judgement is cast on every human soul, unlike in the OT when god smote the living sinners repeatedly. That's certainly a change in behavior.

EDIT: And it being off the top of my head doesn't change that what I bring up is true.

God had to establish the Law and the consequences of transgressing the Law to the people of the World. The carrying out of wrath in the OT was a clear demonstration to all observers that transgressing the Will of God has serious consequences.

Once again as you pointed out the Book Of Revelation (NT) points out that sin is still sin and judgement will be carried out just as in the OT. The Only difference is the process that leads to the judgement.

Sin is still sin as it was before.

The penalty for sin is still death, the same as it was before.

The difference is that judgement is delayed and those carrying out the judgement have changed from followers of God to God Himself.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
God had to establish the Law and the consequences of transgressing the Law to the people of the World. The carrying out of wrath in the OT was a clear demonstration to all observers that transgressing the Will of God has serious consequences.

Once again as you pointed out the Book Of Revelation (NT) points out that sin is still sin and judgement will be carried out just as in the OT. The Only difference is the process that leads to the judgement.

Sin is still sin as it was before.

The penalty for sin is still death, the same as it was before.

The difference is that judgement is delayed and those carrying out the judgement have changed from followers of God to God Himself.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Great answer! This is definitely why you're my favorite, you always make sense when it comes to this stuff. :)
 
And God said...In the beginning was The Word...i.e. LOGOS i.e. the Logic and Means of creation--Jesus Christ Who said He is the Way, The Truth, and The Life.

Here comes the woo woo train.:rolleyes:
Just who was there to record god's words? :bugeye: the word is logos hunh. Why don't you try to expand on that in a rational manner. for the record jesus was a work of fiction- he never really lived.
 
Why don't you try to expand on that in a rational manner.

Because of your excessive use of smiley's... your talk of the woo woo train...such things lead me to believe expanding upon what I've already told you "in a rational manner" will be "a waste of your--and what's infinitely worse--my time."
 
Because of your excessive use of smiley's... your talk of the woo woo train...such things lead me to believe expanding upon what I've already told you "in a rational manner" will be "a waste of your--and what's infinitely worse--my time."

Then make sense.
 
read the bible, it doesnt say that god hates anyone...fred phelps takes it and twists the scriptures it say god hates sin correct, is a person sin? no god doesnt like what they are doing but he doesnt hate them as an individual...God disagrees with the gay lifestyle as much as he disagrees with fred phelps and his anti american organazation....
God died so that we could turn away from our sins to live right and freely, fred phelps is just an idiot and the majority of christians disagree with him...watch and see i can gurantee you he will not be in heaven
 
jesus did live

how can you say jesus didnt live???
who do you think wrote the book of acts? there were preachers like paul,john, and so on who went everywhere with jesus and kept record of the goings on....the bible doesnt contradict itself at all.... the time in between the old and new testamen was years and years, alot of the authors and men of god never saw or knew eachother at all....and yet it doesnt contradict itself

read revelation and what it say about the endtimes and then look at the signs...tell me if that is what is going on today...they have evidence that the bible is real and that jesus did walk and talk and preach on this earth
 
how can you say jesus didnt live???
who do you think wrote the book of acts? there were preachers like paul,john, and so on who went everywhere with jesus and kept record of the goings on....
or so they say,...in other words its all rumors aka hearsay,
btw have you heard of all those other godlike men who existed loooong time before Jebus?
could be xians borrowed something from the other mythologies

http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/godmen.html

the bible doesnt contradict itself at all.... the time in between the old and new testamen was years and years, alot of the authors and men of god never saw or knew eachother at all....and yet it doesnt contradict itself
hows these for contradictions
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
 
read revelation and what it say about the endtimes and then look at the signs...tell me if that is what is going on today...they have evidence that the bible is real and that jesus did walk and talk and preach on this earth
bible is real,but isnt really evidence for jesus,as it cannot be verified in any way

btw you may want to visit Biblical History&Critisism forum at http://www.iidb.org/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=60
 
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