God is a liar and I have the proof!

there is no proof of God to exist
God is a reflection of those who created it
the reflection of those who created image of God are not trustworthy
 
Right about what?

1) Do you agree that god specifically told them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

2) Do you concur that upon eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil that adam and eve became aware of their own nudity?

3) If you answer yes to both of the above you are agreeing that the serpent is responsible for your self awareness.

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1) Did Adam die the day he ate of the fruit and did Adam gain knowledge of good and evil upon eating the fruit? Kindly show where the serpent lied or deceived.

2) Do you espouse that we should not have knowledge of good and evil? Without it, kindly tell me how you could ever know that your god was good..

3) Do you deny that god demanded that adam and eve not eat that which would allow them to even know that this god was good? Of course not, so who do you have to thank for having the ability to know good from evil, to know right from wrong? Certainly not god.


These are great arguments. Also, why would God put a tree with fruit, called 'The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' right in the middle of the Garden of Eden, and then tell Adam and Eve that it is forbidden to eat the fruit? Talk about temptation! What is it that we naturally thirst for?... knowledge! This alone is far greater temptation than any serpent could offer.


So as I've said numerous times this is all astrological allegory, period.

You lose, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars! :yay:


This, on the other hand, is a load of crap. Go watch 'The Number 29', I think your suffering from the same psychosis.
 
so what kind of beasts are Virgo, Capricorn, Aquarius, Gemini, and Libra? What field are Cancer and Pisces in?

so field isn't a real field. Its a zodiac wheel? THAT is a LOT of twisting and turning to get it to mean what you want.

That's right it doesn't make sense, until you realize that an allegory isn't about making sense it's about remembrance.
Kinda like this poem:

The Ramble Twins Crab Liverish;
Scaly Scorpions Are Good Water Fish.
(Ram-Ble = Ram, Bull; Twins = Twins; Li-Ver(ish) = Lion, Virgin;Scaly = Scale; Scorpion = Scorpio; Are = Archer; Good = Goat; Water = Water Bearer; Fish = Fish)
 
This, on the other hand, is a load of crap. Go watch 'The Number 29', I think your suffering from the same psychosis.

That's because you are an uneducated idiot. You have no idea what YOU are talking about. YOU have not done ANY research so YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY HERE! You and all those like you don't know how to think for yourself, you let others do that for you!

Here is the proof idiot!

Get lost!
 
yes, that's what QE keeps saying.

Yet, you seem not to understand what he is getting about. That allegories are in the bible. In the Bible there are a lot of references to the constellations in the sky. QE and others claim that Jesus is an allegory, and if you have actually read this page, http://members.cox.net/deleyd/religion/solarmyth/christ2002.htm
it makes a lot of sense. And maybe, just maybe if you read the whole website dedicated to this solar mythology and the bible you might get somewhere with what QE is saying.
 
That's because you are an uneducated idiot. You have no idea what YOU are talking about. YOU have not done ANY research so YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY HERE! You and all those like you don't know how to think for yourself, you let others do that for you!

Here is the proof idiot!

Get lost!

Sorry, not proof.

Besides, you contradict yourself...

You say every verse is an astrological allegory, and yet, in the original post of this very thread, you are insisting that we take the verse,

Genesis 2:17 (KJV)

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

exactly, literally, in today's language and grammar, how it is written, in order to prove God a liar.


Talk about twisting things to suit your 'beliefs'
 
Hmmm... mods getting a bit tolerant I see. I think I'll start a nice series of flame threads. Should be fun.

Sorry but I get pissed when some loser with no knowledge of the subject at hand has the nerve to call me a crazy. I won't tolerate that kind of B.S.. Look at all the evidence I put forward to support my claims and then come back and talk. Till then, I have no use for some fool and his/her willful ignorance.

I don't need to be here educating you people on this stuff. You can go on with your pointless, fruitless, circular arguments over morality and how science can prove that creationism is wrong and all the other nonsense. I don't need to be here, I'm not learning anything new from you people so what's in it for me? I can spend my time researching and fuck teaching, instead I'll just worry about me. Then you people can live in blissful ignorance just the way it was before I got here. Then you can go back to calling M*W a nut because it makes you feel better to believe the world is flat. How would that be?
 
Sorry, not proof.

Besides, you contradict yourself...

You say every verse is an astrological allegory, and yet, in the original post of this very thread, you are insisting that we take the verse,

Genesis 2:17 (KJV)

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

exactly, literally, in today's language and grammar, how it is written, in order to prove God a liar.


Talk about twisting things to suit your 'beliefs'

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO TAKES IT LITERALLY I AM NOT!

I AM SHOWING YOU PEOPLE JUST HOW FUCKING STUPID THE POSITION OF TAKING THE BIBLE LITERALLY IS!

GET A GOD DAMNED CLUE!

IT IS PROOF READ IT FOOL!!
 
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO TAKES IT LITERALLY I AM NOT!

I AM SHOWING YOU PEOPLE JUST HOW FUCKING STUPID THE POSITION OF TAKING THE BIBLE LITERALLY IS!

GET A GOD DAMNED CLUE!

I think you miss the point

Christians commonly draw criticism for taking something as literal in one instance and allegorical in another.

You are doing the same thing (in the name of defaming christianity).

Why should you be given any special credence?
 
I think you miss the point

Christians commonly draw criticism for taking something as literal in one instance and allegorical in another.

You are doing the same thing (in the name of defaming christianity).

Why should you be given any special credence?

I argue the Bible from the literal Christian perspective and then turn around and show that the reason the arguments are failing is because the Bible is not based on literal events, it's an allegory.

I can't help the fact that your IQ isn't high enough to understand that.
 
apparently mine isn't either. :rolleyes:
I've never seen a christian twist the bible so much. well, maybe Fred Phelps does.....but..ya know.
actually there is philosophical phenomena where radically opposed dualities bear a striking similarity to one another.

For instance fascism, despite being the ideological opposite of communism, is practically identical in terms of effect (compare stalin and hitler)

:scratchin:
 
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