George Carlin on Religion...

[VitalOne]

:bugeye:

You obviously know very little of me.

I have nothing else to say, just keep reading my previous statement. Accept it or not, I don't care, that is how I feel.

Well tell me why have you not spoken out against the INNUMERABLE biased comments favoring atheism on this forum?

Exactly.

Rather it's YOU who has nothing to say

 

[Thoreau]

Well tell me why have you not spoken out against the INNUMERABLE biased comments favoring atheism on this forum?

Exactly.

Rather it's YOU who has nothing to say

Because I accept the possibility that there is no God, AGAIN, just as I accept the possibility that there is a God. I do not subscribe to any religious belief system, only the possibilities that they are correct or incorrect. As I've said in other threads.... Currently there is no scientific evidence that can prove any religion as "right". Just because we do not have the technology to measure any religious claims, does not mean that they do not exist as truth. Just as it leaves just as much room for the possibility that religion is "wrong" or false.

I really don't know how many times I have to say this, VitalOne.

 

[VitalOne]

Because I accept the possibility that there is no God, AGAIN, just as I accept the possibility that there is a God. I do not subscribe to any religious belief system, only the possibilities that they are correct or incorrect. As I've said in other threads.... Currently there is no scientific evidence that can prove any religion as "right". Just because we do not have the technology to measure any religious claims, does not mean that they do not exist as truth. Just as it leaves just as much room for the possibility that religion is "wrong".

I really don't know how many times I have to say this, VitalOne.

You only really said this once on this thread

Also you didn't explain anything about why you only consider my comments biased but the INNUMERABLE biased comments favoring athiesm you have no problem with....

Thanks for the re-confirmation, you are the one who is fully biased

 

[Thoreau]

You only really said this once on this thread

Also you didn't explain anything about why you only consider my comments biased but the INNUMERABLE biased comments favoring athiesm you have no problem with....

Thanks for the re-confirmation, you are the one who is fully biased

And thus concludes our conversation and my attempt to explain to you my reasoning, which has apparently fell on deaf ears. Thank you once again for wasting my time. :shrug:

 

[pjdude1219]

Since you have no problem with George Carlin's biased comments why do you have a problem with mine?

Your own bias is NAKED

carlin was at one point a catholic his beliefs are a direct result of what he saw as the flaw of christianity

 

[Godless]

"young lady" right, man you're such an amateur, but then again you are just another delusional atheist, so I can't blame you for believing in fantasy over reality...

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahaha!!LOL...DOFLMAO! This shit was just too hilarious!

Reality of what? A supreme being which you can't possibly provide evidence for? or reality that your just delusional and think that those whom don't follow your warped religion which ever denomination of a few thousands may be, but your sure yours is the right one? That reality? Really you've got to be kidding!! it was an embarrassment reading the rest of your crap! Please don't stand up for religious folks you don't do them justice! NOW THAT'S REALITY!!

 

[Nickelodeon]

Funny guy.

 

[charles brough]

I wish everyone would write their posts with a little more consideration so the thread doesn't degenerate into such a miserable chain of empty comments and insults as this one has. Being an atheist myself, I believe in treating believers with the same consideration as non-believers. I would like to think we all do.

charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com

 

[Photizo]

carlin was at one point a catholic his beliefs are a direct result of what he saw as the flaw of christianity

What he 'saw' was a flawed interpretation of Christianity. He mocks the foibles of a man made concoction/institution. None of what He said applies to having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. He obviously has no experience with/of that...unfortunately.

 

[VitalOne]

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahaha!!LOL...DOFLMAO! This shit was just too hilarious!

Reality of what? A supreme being which you can't possibly provide evidence for? or reality that your just delusional and think that those whom don't follow your warped religion which ever denomination of a few thousands may be, but your sure yours is the right one? That reality? Really you've got to be kidding!! it was an embarrassment reading the rest of your crap! Please don't stand up for religious folks you don't do them justice! NOW THAT'S REALITY!!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical atheistic comment, THE REASON I CAN'T GIVE YOU EVIDENCE IS BECAUSE I CAN'T GATHER ANY EVIDENCE JUST LIKE HOW YOU CAN'T GATHER EVIDENCE FOR THE MANY-WORLDS INTERPRETATION

ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE MUTHAF**KER

See these foolish atheists just can't snap out of denial, thanks for the re-confirmation you deluded atheist

 

[Thoreau]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical atheistic comment, THE REASON I CAN'T GIVE YOU EVIDENCE IS BECAUSE I CAN'T GATHER ANY EVIDENCE JUST LIKE HOW YOU CAN'T GATHER EVIDENCE FOR THE MANY-WORLDS INTERPRETATION

ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE MUTHAF**KER

See these foolish atheists just can't snap out of denial, thanks for the re-confirmation you deluded atheist

I have a question... do you attack others to prove a legitimate point, or is it just to reaffirm your belief in your own faith?

 

[Godless]

Vital the only mother I've ever fucked was yours and she was a shitty fuck at that!!

as for argument from ignorance! You've hit the nail on the head! Your argument is from IGNORANCE!!

 

[Enmos]

No, anyone who has a false belief is delusional

To you that is everyone that doesn't share your beliefs... :bugeye:

Its the opposite, atheists say "everyone except for me is delusional"

Not true, I know a lot of religious people and I respect them and their choices. It's different with people like you though.

 

[Enmos]

I have a question... do you attack others to prove a legitimate point, or is it just to reaffirm your belief in your own faith?

This is a good question..
I wonder if he realizes it himself.

 

[Enmos]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You do a lot of rolling on the floor it seems..

MUTHAF**KER

And how does this reflect on yourself Vital ? Do you think God approves of that ?

 

[superluminal]

ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE MUTHAF**KER

Ahhh. Now I get it. Some well placed asterisks and anything goes. Cool.

I was about to post something like:

So, you id**t. What sort of ass**le spouts the same brain damaged sh*t post after post without the slightest self realization of what a mor**ic dips**t he is? Could it be you, VO?

but I restrained myself.

Go ahead. Report me you muthaf**king pr**k. I dare you.

So, let's see how serious the mods are about moderating this joint.

 

[superluminal]

Everything from post #30 forward should be deleted.

 

[pjdude1219]

Found this transcript, thought many would enjoy... Personally, I think he's about the most realistic comedian I've ever seen. He tell's it like it is with no sugar-coating.

When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!

don't forget this quote if there is a god it has to be male bacause no woman would or could f*** things up this much

 

[Thoreau]

Everything from post #30 forward should be deleted.

Negative, I think people like Vital should be deleted so we wouldn't have this f****g discussion everytime someone posts a non-Christian based thread. But of course, thats never going to happen and honestly it would not be fair. However, it seems impossible to have a serious discussion without people like that coming along and picking a fight because the contents challenges thier way of thinking. Either learn to think outside of the box, or keep your mouth shut, because guess what... not everyone is going to share the same beliefs that you may have. If you can't accept that, then your just wasting yours and everyone elses time by posting.

:shrug:

 

[VitalOne]

And thus concludes our conversation and my attempt to explain to you my reasoning, which has apparently fell on deaf ears. Thank you once again for wasting my time. :shrug:

Yes....

Conclusion: You refuse to explain why you have no problem with biased comments favoring atheism

carlin was at one point a catholic his beliefs are a direct result of what he saw as the flaw of christianity

Yeah, ok, thanks for the re-confirmation

I have a question... do you attack others to prove a legitimate point, or is it just to reaffirm your belief in your own faith?

It is a legitimate point you deluded atheist...

GO LOOK IT UP

Vital the only mother I've ever fucked was yours and she was a shitty fuck at that!!

as for argument from ignorance! You've hit the nail on the head! Your argument is from IGNORANCE!!

You haven't f**ked anyone's mother, in fact you'd be lucky if you got to f**k anyone's grandmother

IT IS an argument from ignorance, here I'll look it up for you you deluded atheist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

To you that is everyone that doesn't share your beliefs... :bugeye:

No it just means someone who has false beliefs (atheists)

Not true, I know a lot of religious people and I respect them and their choices. It's different with people like you though.

This wasn't directed at you dumbass, next time read

You do a lot of rolling on the floor it seems..


And how does this reflect on yourself Vital ? Do you think God approves of that ?

Reflects great

Ahhh. Now I get it. Some well placed asterisks and anything goes. Cool.

I was about to post something like:



but I restrained myself.

Go ahead. Report me you muthaf**king pr**k. I dare you.

So, let's see how serious the mods are about moderating this joint.

They'll ONLY moderate me, the deluded moderators favor atheism, so Godless saying f*** doesn't matter, its a good thing as long as favors atheism