It seems to me that if a person goes to heaven, their unconditional free will is taken away and is a form of brain washing from God? From the way I understand it is, what you do in the afterlife is what the father, son, and holy ghost would do.
The fall ? Is that when our ancestors fell out of the trees and began to walk upright ?
sureWhat if I will to replace God, am I free to do it?
If that were true...
Then the same would be same for a person that joins law enforcement or the judicial system. Obviously these people's free will is intact as was Satan and the other angels that chose to join him when he rebeled against God in Heaven.
That said. The Bible perspective of the future is that rebellions would never again be tolerated to avoid the consequence that have befallen the earth today.
sure
that is the special facility on offer in the material world
what makes you think the material world is the only place that has "things"?It's a good thing we live in a material world ,otherwise Noah would have had no wood to build his ark.
what makes you think the material world is the only place that has "things"?
Thank you for sharing that happy message with us. Can you now explain what it means; Satan , angels and a rebellion in heaven.
Is there a need for alcohol?
sitting next to God for an eternity can become boring, in a free willing way.
What if I will to replace God, am I free to do it?
It means he excercised his free will.
Because if there had been another source, holy Noah would have got his wood elsewhere.How to keep all those sex-crazed animals in an immaterial ark, now that sounds like a real problem.
Surely existence is a pre-condition of the expression of free will. Are you sure Satan exists other than in kids' books ? Evidence ?
*************Because if there had been another source, holy Noah would have got his wood elsewhere.How to keep all those sex-crazed animals in an immaterial ark, now that sounds like a real problem.
I'm not sure how that answers the question
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M*W: And just imagine the shit to be shoveled.
Why surely?
It's nonsense to talk of free will in the absence of agents to exwercise it.
So you're admitting you participation in the discussion is nonsense?
I would agree with that declaration.