I see that as sensationalistic crap. Think about it....most scientific views are strong and near conclusive. You expect your computer to work when ever you use it...youturn on your TV and accept it is going to work.....we expect the Sun to rise in the east every morning, etc etc etc2. I don't like the idea that if a conclusion is believed to be true, if it's atheist or pro-mainstream-science or something, then all arguments for that conclusion must therefore be strong and defensible arguments. I'm a critical-thinking instructor at heart, and I'm motivated to criticize what I perceive as weak arguments and sloppy reasoning, regardless of who is doing it or what conclusions the arguments are being used to support. People on Sciforums have a tendency to get lazy, to join up with the perceived 'good guys' in Paddoboy's little war and then turn off their brains. (I've noticed you doing that.)
With your little comment about the good guys and paddoboy's little war, more sensationalistic crap: This is first and foremost a science forum, and as such any and all claims that are not mainstream, can be expected to run the gauntlet of scientific review and critique.
When people claim Aliens have landed and produce a u tube video, such extraordinary claims will be severely critiqued......when people claim that reputable scientific experiments like Hulse Taylor binary observation, like the GP-B, or more recently, like aLIGO, are fraudulent, then they can most certainly be brought to account to explain such extraordinary claims.
That will continue.
So do I.3. And regrettably, I'm human. I have a tendency to react emotionally to insults, flames and perceived rudeness. I get mad, and sometimes my anger shows through.
I'm totally not interested in whether anyone is in the minority or not, or who needs or does not need my support, or how many likes or dislikes I have.4. I'm less likely to question MR's massive credulity than to question his opponents, because MR is a minority of one around here and he typically has ten or twenty opponents who don't need my support. I don't feel like piling on and often side with the underdog. (No matter how many 'likes' it costs me.)
I find all that superficial, and prefer to argue along the lines of the scientific methodology, no matter which side of the coin that falls on...oh yes, I have also been in the minority at times.
I also see that as pretentious crap for the reasons explained in my first response to you.5. I'm inclined to think that much of the general public treats science as if it is a new religion and anything perceived as non-scientific as heresy and heathenism.
Let me again add as I have many times, that I am only a lay person, who has read plenty in the last 30 years or so, and while in many cases I certainly need to take things on faith, I also am able to see the results of scientific reason and endeavours all around me everyday. And again, don't we all have faith in something everyday? I do not see too much wrong with that, as most of that type of faith can be finally observed to be valid.
A scientific theory is our best guess at any one particular moment in time. As long as that "best guess" keeps being validated by further and further observations, experimental results and continued successful predictions, then it gains in more and more certainty over time.6. I'm also inclined to think that some of science's conceptual supports aren't nearly as strong as many people seem to think. I think that we are surrounded by mysteries at every moment, by things that humans don't fully understand.
Science as yet do not have the full answers to the big questions, but it continues to pursue those questions, by applying the scientific methodology, logic and common sense.
It certainly isn't the last word, who ever told you anyone thought that.7. Which implies that I'm sympathetic to MR's desire to find anomalies. I think that they probably do exist. I don't think that our current scientific understanding is the last word on reality, so I'm inclined to suspect that exceptions and problem cases do exist.
And the strongest aspect of any exceptions or problematic cases that also certainly exist, is that at this time they remain as unexplained, or unidentified, or unknown, rather then Aliens, ghosts, Bigfoot, or whatever.
Remember also as I have relayed to this forum, I have seen a UFO, which to this day still remains as unidentified.
Plus of course another point I often relay to the forum, is that I would dearly love my personal belief that ETL exists elsewhere, to be finally validated before I kick the bucket.