No it isn't. That's what we non-believers call: "asking for trouble".
For the atheists
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It should be quite needless to point out that communism and atheism are two entirely different things - indeed communism in itself is a form of religion.
You very well might have a serial killing atheist but you wont find him killing for his lack of belief in gods whereas history will clearly show you that many do kill because of a belief in gods and belief that they are doing his will.
Horse poo. Monkeys don't have gods or heavens or hells or jails or legal systems and yet you don't find them just going around killing each other for no good reason. If you "act as badly as possible" your own survival prospects become minimal - so no, it isn't the 'logical' thing to do at all.
I think it is one facet of rejecting irrational beliefs of all kinds. Atheism isn't Nihilism, things can be meaningful in relation to other things. It's not logical to behave as badly as possible.
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Why?
So the invisible hand of public condemnation will keep all the atheists in line, will it?
-So the "visible" hand of church condemnation will keep all the theist in line, will it?
Religion is a great enforcer of conscience which you will lose in an atheist utopia.
-Why is that, I had stronger conscience when I was child and did know next to nothing about any religion. People are still stoned to death by religious people. Maybe we just have bad religions ? We cant love each other without religion ?
So the invisible hand of public condemnation will keep all the atheists in line, will it?
-So the "visible" hand of church condemnation will keep all the theist in line, will it?
Religion is a great enforcer of conscience which you will lose in an atheist utopia.
-Why is that, I had stronger conscience when I was child and did know next to nothing about any religion. People are still stoned to death by religious people. Maybe we just have bad religions ? We cant love each other without religion ?
Anyone can easily argue that atheists kill because they're atheists, materialists, empircists....why does it only apply to religion and not anything else?
I'll tell you, its because atheists have to preserve the atheistic faith at all cost, anything that goes against atheism they have to rule out and ignore, but all things that apparently go against religion, they must emphasize and point out....
All praise the atheistic faith..."we have belief without evidence, but its not faith"....
Typical projection of religious dogmatic belief systems on those that lack it entirely.
Atheism and faith do not go together....is that so hard to grasp
Atheism is characterised by an absence, an emptiness, of religious belief. It's a vacuum into which you can fire any other belief(s) of your choosing, for better or for worse. Therefore it doesn't, in and of itself, actually contain anything than can be 'preserved'.
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Right guys, I agree, even though atheists have belief without evidence (also known as faith) that there is no God, no karma, no heaven, no hell, no soul, some how its not faith, even though it matches the exact definition of faith....you guys win on this...
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Extraordinary claims without evidence can also be rejected without evidence.
I dont believe in god because there is no proof of his existence, but find me proof, and I'd be hard pressed to say he didnt exist, or just stupid
Are you sure? I thought it was a lack of belief due to absence of evidence supplanting a belief in a possibility of evidence of absence?
That's like saying that aleprechaunists kill because they don't believe in leprechauns. The statement is daft when you actually put some thought into it.
It applies to things other than just religion, but a lack of belief is hardly a motivation. A "belief" is motivation, a lack of belief can never be. So yes, you can get someone who is anti-religious and thus goes about killing religious folk - his belief leads to him killing others, but atheism in itself, (a lack of belief in gods), much like aleprechaunism can never be espoused as motivation.
The problem now is you reconciling your misunderstanding as to what atheism is.
Religion is a big motivation by its very nature. From a biblical perspective you have god telling his people to go and slaughter men, women, children and animals without mercy - and whether this god ultimately exists or not, it was the belief that lead to the action. Further than that you have irreconcilable differences from religion to religion and indeed within each individual religion, (protestant/catholic etc). That's why it's a problem.
Extraordinarily naive.
While your statement is highly inaccurate, am I to understand from it that you have a serious dislike to 'faith'? You seem to be under the impression that faith is a stupid thing but then feel if you can lump it on everyone else then it somehow makes it less stupid if you live by it. I find the notion quite bizarre myself.
Anyway tell me.. is your lack of belief in martians 'faith'? How about your lack of belief in zeus or apollo?
After listening to Sam Harris for 5 minutes, it became obvious where a lot of the atheist posters on this site get their beliefs from ....