psst mis-t-highs. Your ignorance is showing. Put someone on ignore and see what it does.
psst mis-t-highs. Your ignorance is showing. Put someone on ignore and see what it does.
I know what it does, but his honesty was at fault.psst mis-t-highs. Your ignorance is showing. Put someone on ignore and see what it does.
I think we (rationally individuals) concede far too much to theists with arguments like these. firstly, it bypasses the questions of why believe in the first place. secondly, it leaves a wide opening to, as spidergoat pointed out, theists interpreting their religion to suit their views.jessiej920 said:If God created all life on Earth then it stands to show that God also created gays/lesbians, athiests, pagans, ect. ect. So, why then, do they have to go to hell for being what God made them? Who exactly gets sent to hell and what is the criteria?
I think we (rationally individuals) concede far too much to theists with arguments like these. firstly, it bypasses the questions of why believe in the first place. secondly, it leaves a wide opening to, as spidergoat pointed out, theists interpreting their religion to suit their views.
the better argument is to simply ask what someone ought to believe. ask a theist to give you criteria by which people should judge things to be true. by doing so, you show the hypocracy and fallacy in their argument.
most theist (that I have talk to) say the believe because of a feeling of one sort or another. thus, when they are asked whether a feeling is good enough to judge something as truth, then their arguments usually get pretty watery. maybe I should start a thread here to see if I can provoke any good arguments.
I agree that much oh what monotheists believe is rediculous. however, if you ask for criteria for why going to hell you can always get an answer, and it will likely be different for each person you ask. moreover, you can't show the fallacy of someone's arguments with that question because everyone has their justifications.jessie said:Well, I guess I don't really want to know what they think someone OUGHT to believe, but more or less what the eff the criteria is for damning someone to hell for eternity! I mean, it's just ridiculous that perfectly decent, "moral", law-abiding, average ppl should suffer a millenia-times-ten of fiery torment rather than go to heaven simply because they didn't accept jesus as their savior. That's just a bunch of BS to me, if you want to know the truth.
I just don't get it.
As opposed to a closed forum?I know what it does, but his honesty was at fault.
Because as "Q" said "JDawg" must have been stalking him, as he opened it to read the content, thus finding it was a reply to him, IE he could not ignore it.
And anybody that puts another on ignore, on a an open public forum is an imbecile.