Wow, I'm even shocked I posted that.Answer my previous questions.
They are there.
I want to apologize and thinking to wash my mouth out with soap.
Wow, I'm even shocked I posted that.Answer my previous questions.
They are there.
Wow, I'm even shocked I posted that.
I want to apologize and thinking to wash my mouth out with soap.
You have a relativist's concept of truth, I take it. There's "true for you" and "true for me", and those can be different, according to you. i.e. truth is subjective.
I don't agree, and it makes no difference that you say it makes no difference, 'cos it kinda does.
I'm not big on "true for me" and "true for you", myself. For me, it's more a case of "true" and "not true".
That's not to say I never make mistakes, of course. I'm not so deluded that I think I'm infallible.
I think my post got deleted.Evidence of hell .
More accurately, I think the "truth" for Jan is probably whatever Jan thinks it is. He'll flip-flop from one position to another depending on what suits his line of argument at any given time.If this is Jan's view then it is interesting that Jan, only a few posts above, asserts that "It doesn't matter how it seems to you. The truth is the thruth regardless."
In part, I suppose. But interestingly, there you're arguing for total objectivity, claiming that you have absolute objective knowledge of something, rather than merely a personal opinion.Ultimately our relationship with this world is subjective. Isn't that what you're trying to show with the brain in a vat game?
More accurately, I think the "truth" for Jan is probably whatever Jan thinks it is. He'll flip-flop from one position to another depending on what suits his line of argument at any given time.
But interestingly, there you're arguing for total objectivity, claiming that you have absolute objective knowledge of something, rather than merely a personal opinion.
No, it's not, not if you assert the subjective nature of truth as you do below.No I don't. The truth is the truth.
There are two notions of "truth" being considered: one that means being in accordance with reality - I.e. Objective; the other meaning a belief that is accepted as corresponding to reality - I.e. Subjective.That we may honestly think something to be the truth, to find out that you were mistaken, does not mean you weren't being truthful.
Yes, lies are conscious descisions to tell something that you don't believe to be true.A lie is a distortion of the truth. That means you have to know the truth in order to lie. A mistake is an error, fault, misconception. It says nothing about the truth itself. The Truth stands alone.
There are two notions of "truth" being considered: one that means being in accordance with reality - I.e. Objective; the other meaning a belief that is accepted as corresponding to reality - I.e. Subjective.
When you say "a truth is a truth" you seem to be implying the first, yet your subsequent statement suggests the second.
You thus seem to be offering inconsistent messages.
Again.
Yes: you do seem to be offering inconsistent messages.Is that true?
Yes: you do seem to be offering inconsistent messages.
Let me be more specific about the truth: as at the time of writing this post, you do seem to me to be offering inconsistent messages.
This truth will not change, even if you subsequently, somehow, convince me to change my view on whether or not I think you are offering inconsistent messages.
It will always be true that, at the time I am writing this post, you seemed to me to be offering inconsistent messages.
Which included the claim that it seemed you were offering inconsistent messages.Actually I was reffering to claims I quoted from post 229.
You refer to "it" but given that there were numerous elements to what you quoted, perhaps you could be more specific?Despite your assertion that it is true, do you think that it is possible you could be mistaken?
What exactly are you asking me whether or not I think it possible I could be mistaken?
Actually I was reffering to claims I quoted from post 229.
No.This...
Are you blind?
And I have answered already.You're funny Baldeee.
My question, "is that true" was directed at the whole quote.