And then what would happen on day 2?Cure all forms of cancer and cause peace to break out.
And then what would happen on day 2?Cure all forms of cancer and cause peace to break out.
There would be no cancer and there would be peace...and all was good!And then what would happen on day 2?
I can do neither. But that is what you require of God?
It's a good question but one to which my only honest answer is: I don't know.So we have much to say on the subject of God, but I'm curious what would serve as empirical evidence for those who don't believe in God. What is it that you need to prove God's existence? Would it be something physical, solid--something you can hold in your hand? Or is there something else that would prove his existence?
People are asking for evidence, but I'm not certain what it is exactly that would satisfy their needs. ???
So the general principle here is that conflict and cancer do not arise from our individual and collective lifestyle choices?There would be no cancer and there would be peace...and all was good!
but I am not sure this would convince me of anything more than an incredibly powerful alien.
to convince you of existence of god or will you stick with "beyond empirical evidence, and God's existence is empirically unprovable and unfalsifiable"But ultimately, I simply don't know.
I think God, if God exists, is beyond empirical evidence, and God's existence is empirically unprovable and unfalsifiable.
Seems somewhat of a non sequitur.So the general principle here is that conflict and cancer do not arise from our individual and collective lifestyle choices?
As said, I find the only honest answer to be: I don't know.Soooo what would it take a
to convince you of existence of god or will you stick with "beyond empirical evidence, and God's existence is empirically unprovable and unfalsifiable"
If you are going with beyond it appears to me you had already had a mind set to negotiate our evidence put forward because of the beyond mind set
How would you tell whether moving Everest to the pyramids was genuinely the work of God or just really powerful aliens, capable of performing such feats?
Similarly with walking through the Great Wall of China?
Again, it's your premise, and therefore your burden to prove. I don't think it's possible, it's a nonsensical question.what would evidence that the empirical is "not all there is" look like?
It is already proven by any empirical line of inquiry delivering a grossly incomplete picture of the world.Again, it's your premise, and therefore your burden to prove. I don't think it's possible, it's a nonsensical question.
I didn't say a photograph. I said sit Him down on my couch. Photographs can be faked.So what criteria would a photograph of God have that a regular photograph would not?
So what are you looking for specifically in God? Like if God knocks on your door, and asks if its still ok to come in and sit on your couch, how are you going to spot an imposter?I didn't say a photograph. I said sit Him down on my couch. Photographs can be faked.
And yet you can't produce even a photograph of God.
Roll Him out and we'll worry about imposters later. The question is about whether the thing exists at all, in any tangible way, not whether fakes are possible.Like if God knocks on your door, and asks if its still ok to come in and sit on your couch, how are you going to spot an imposter?
If you can't bring criteria to a "thing" you can't begin to move in the direction of existence (or no existence). For instance if you have no clue about what a gold bullion bar is, you will probably have no shortage of people willing to sell you one at a very special discount price.Roll Him out and we'll worry about imposters later. The question is about whether the thing exists at all, in any tangible way, not whether fakes are possible.
Your "criteria" is a red herring. I'm not asking for anything that I wouldn't ask about any "elephant in the room". If it's there, you should be able to show it in any number of ways.If you can't bring criteria to a "thing" you can't begin to move in the direction of existence (or no existence).
On the contrary, your lack of criteria is a red herring. If you don't believe me, you should head down to the fruit stall to buy this incredibly cheap gold bullion :Your "criteria" is a red herring. I'm not asking for anything that I wouldn't ask about any "elephant in the room". If it's there, you should be able to show it in any number of ways.
Lack of something is not a thing.On the contrary, your lack of criteria is a red herring.