Does time exist?
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1- how so ?
2- inotherwords duration is about energy and matter movements and existence , without defining their movements by any measure , amonugst themselves or any interactions amongust themselves , and within themselves .
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1- how so ?
Magnitive is the ineffable quality of time of being objective, imperceptible and measurable.
2- In other words, duration is about energy and matter movements and existence , without defining their movements by any measure , amongst themselves or any interactions amongst themselves , and within themselves.
I think you are talking about BECOMING.
What is the measure of time for you?
1- how so ?
Magnitive is the ineffable quality of time of being objective, imperceptible and measurable.
2- In other words, duration is about energy and matter movements and existence , without defining their movements by any measure , amongst themselves or any interactions amongst themselves , and within themselves.
I think you are talking about BECOMING.
What is the measure of time for you?
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Duration is before becoming .
The measure of time to me is about perspective . A living beings perspective .
Any intelligent being will put time measurement to any thing that happens in this Universe , Naturally .
The thing is , is that the Universe doesn't work by time , the Universe works by existence
Time does not exist in energy and matter
Time only exists in living beings observations of our Solar System , and the Universe
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IS IT TIME ABSOLUTE OR RELATIVE?
The rhythm of time is constant and absolute, second to second. A second is the approximation of a fleeting moment. Although time is the product of movement (the Sibilia's Law), its rhythm does not depend on it. High speed affects movement, but not the rhythm of time. Speed and gravity affect the operation of clocks (duration), but time does not change its rhythm.
Duration is relative. The permanence of beings over time increases with speed and gravity. In the case of the paradox of the twins, the brother who travels to space at a speed close to c will have a longer life (age) than that of his brother who remains on Earth.
Time (absolute) is a product of movement and its measure is duration (relative).
The rhythm of time is constant and absolute, second to second. A second is the approximation of a fleeting moment. Although time is the product of movement (the Sibilia's Law), its rhythm does not depend on it. High speed affects movement, but not the rhythm of time. Speed and gravity affect the operation of clocks (duration), but time does not change its rhythm.
Duration is relative. The permanence of beings over time increases with speed and gravity. In the case of the paradox of the twins, the brother who travels to space at a speed close to c will have a longer life (age) than that of his brother who remains on Earth.
Time (absolute) is a product of movement and its measure is duration (relative).
Duration is about the observation of energy and matter . Just observation . Letting them just do what they do .
Time is not a product .
Time is a mathamatical consequence of movement(s) , of physical things . Energy and matter and life
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Time is a epiphenomenon of movement.
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Philochrony unifies classical time with relative time
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COMBINATION OF MOVEMENTS
After watching the following video about a hypothetical light clock I conclude that: (the video is spoken in Spanish).
1- One movement can affect another movement.
2- The movement of the trolley (v∧t) changes the trajectory of the light (c∧t) for the external observer.
3- Speed affects the measurement of time (duration), but not its rhythm. Another movement is affected.
After watching the following video about a hypothetical light clock I conclude that: (the video is spoken in Spanish).
1- One movement can affect another movement.
2- The movement of the trolley (v∧t) changes the trajectory of the light (c∧t) for the external observer.
3- Speed affects the measurement of time (duration), but not its rhythm. Another movement is affected.
To your First statement , agreed
Time inotherwords is the consequence of physical things , movement(s).
Therefore has no physical influence on anything physical
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THE FILMADA: RECORD OF TIME IN THE BRAIN
The filmada (from film and ada) is the record of time in the brain. The filmada represents a certain time interval. When we think of a period of time (1 hour, 1 day, 1 year, etc.) the filmada corresponding to the period is activated.
The older they are, the filmada are strongly established in our brains. Clock records the elapsed time, but there are no filmada.
The passage of time produces the sensation of a distance to the past (sequential distance) that increases at each moment; for this we know that time exists.
Filmada in Italian, is filmata.
The filmada (from film and ada) is the record of time in the brain. The filmada represents a certain time interval. When we think of a period of time (1 hour, 1 day, 1 year, etc.) the filmada corresponding to the period is activated.
The older they are, the filmada are strongly established in our brains. Clock records the elapsed time, but there are no filmada.
The passage of time produces the sensation of a distance to the past (sequential distance) that increases at each moment; for this we know that time exists.
Filmada in Italian, is filmata.
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EVOLUTION OF THE CONCEPT TIME IN PHILOCHRONY
1- Time is the continuous succession of irreversible moments.
2- Time is the dimension of becoming and goes from the beginning to the end of events.
3- Time is the relation between two sequential states in becoming. Becoming flows, time cuts it. For example, 12 midnight is a cut.
4- Time is the flowing interval between two asimultaneous moments.
5- Time is the becoming elapsed between two sequential moments (interval).
6- Time is the continuous succession of fleeting moments product of movement. It is the change of changes. The
Sibilia's law appears.
7- Time is the continuous succession with constant rhythm of fleeting moments product of the movement.
The ancient civilizations realized that time passed periodically and with constant rhythm. They attributed these characteristics of time to gods. Clocks represent the passage of time, since this is imperceptible (magnitive). The cube represents space.
In clocks we only see a periodic physical phenomenon with constant rhythm. This is what represents time.
1- Time is the continuous succession of irreversible moments.
2- Time is the dimension of becoming and goes from the beginning to the end of events.
3- Time is the relation between two sequential states in becoming. Becoming flows, time cuts it. For example, 12 midnight is a cut.
4- Time is the flowing interval between two asimultaneous moments.
5- Time is the becoming elapsed between two sequential moments (interval).
6- Time is the continuous succession of fleeting moments product of movement. It is the change of changes. The
Sibilia's law appears.
7- Time is the continuous succession with constant rhythm of fleeting moments product of the movement.
The ancient civilizations realized that time passed periodically and with constant rhythm. They attributed these characteristics of time to gods. Clocks represent the passage of time, since this is imperceptible (magnitive). The cube represents space.
In clocks we only see a periodic physical phenomenon with constant rhythm. This is what represents time.
Disagree , the cube representing space , is two dimensional point thinking .
We are use to thinking in two dimensions especially is looking to the stars . Points of light .
The Stars are actually Spheres of energy , not " points " of energy .
When you think of each Star , Galaxy etc , the Universe in full three dimensions . You understand the Universe in a whole new way , the way it actually is , rather than in just our perspective , two dimensions .
So was I , talking about a physical , three dimensional cube .
Time based on what movement ? To your last statement ?
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In any movement.
THE CUT AS A CENTER IN PHILOCHRONY
Immanuel Kant placed the subject instead of the object as the center of knowledge. He leaves from the premise that reality is unknowable and that the subject constructs the phenomena.
In Philochrony, the passage of time produces the sensation of a sequential distancing of the observer with respect to a fixed moment in the past (cut). In time, the observer moves away with the other objects.
In Physics, the observer is placed as a center in the study of time, and in everything related to movement. In Philochrony the cut is placed as a center in the study of time. The cut does not exist anymore, but there is a record that it was real.
An hour ago means that I've been away an hour since the beginning of that interval.
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HOW DO WE MEASURE TIME?
A body can be at rest or moving depending on the frame of reference that is chosen. If the observer is at rest or moves with constant velocity, it is said to be an inertial frame of reference. If the movement of the observer is accelerated, it is said to be a non-inertial frame of reference.
In the case of time, it flows inexorably; there is no case where time seems to be stopped. As I have pointed out in another thread, the center in the measure of time is not the observer (in Philochrony), but a fixed moment in the past called cut or beginning. All observers move away from a previously selected beginning. Although we are still, we keep moving inexorably away from the cut or beginning.
Philochron explanation:
1- We see changes or becoming (we age).
2- Time is defined by intuition (magnitive).
3- We measure time by relating two sequential moments, one the beginning (previous) and the other the end (later). The measure of time is duration.
4- Time is not the succession of changes, this is movement. There are people who conceive it in that way. See the definition given by the Philochrony about time. Post #1774.
In the philochron explanation: we see, intuit and relate.
A body can be at rest or moving depending on the frame of reference that is chosen. If the observer is at rest or moves with constant velocity, it is said to be an inertial frame of reference. If the movement of the observer is accelerated, it is said to be a non-inertial frame of reference.
In the case of time, it flows inexorably; there is no case where time seems to be stopped. As I have pointed out in another thread, the center in the measure of time is not the observer (in Philochrony), but a fixed moment in the past called cut or beginning. All observers move away from a previously selected beginning. Although we are still, we keep moving inexorably away from the cut or beginning.
Philochron explanation:
1- We see changes or becoming (we age).
2- Time is defined by intuition (magnitive).
3- We measure time by relating two sequential moments, one the beginning (previous) and the other the end (later). The measure of time is duration.
4- Time is not the succession of changes, this is movement. There are people who conceive it in that way. See the definition given by the Philochrony about time. Post #1774.
In the philochron explanation: we see, intuit and relate.
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