It isn't my hypothesis at all...
Does time exist?
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It isn't my hypothesis at all...
From another source my understanding is that gravity and/or speed interferes with the mechanism of any sort of measuring instrument
From the instruments view point nothing changes. From the "stationary" view point changes occur. Each has to stay in its relative region and within its own frame for everything to be normal for everyone. The two bougie bad boys are gravity and the limiting speed of light both of which mess up measurements (measurements NOT time)
Because time does not exist there is nothing to interact with. But our measurement equipment is a different matter
Make them heavier or lighter in a gravity field or by varying their speed and they go Cockoo GaGa and we have a hard time understanding them
Now I must get back to holiday
Public forums such as this are open to all and sundry who can claim whatever they like, no matter how false, how stupid or how bizarre. Do you have anything to support your conjecture? Because as of 21/11/2017 both SR and GR have never been stronger.
From another source my understanding is that gravity and/or speed interferes with the mechanism of any sort of measuring instrument
From the instruments view point nothing changes. From the "stationary" view point changes occur. Each has to stay in its relative region and within its own frame for everything to be normal for everyone. The two bougie bad boys are gravity and the limiting speed of light both of which mess up measurements (measurements NOT time)
Because time does not exist there is nothing to interact with. But our measurement equipment is a different matter
Make them heavier or lighter in a gravity field or by varying their speed and they go Cockoo GaGa and we have a hard time understanding them
Now I must get back to holiday
So the claim is that perceived mass is the culprit...
That's part of what I get a sense of from the book
As are aware the faster you travel time is said to slow
Which would mean even tiny tiny wennie discrepancies would be catastrophic
In the dim dark ages of the vinyl records (and still current) the outer edge of the record travels faster than the inner part of the label next to spindle
So why does the outer edge not slip into the past while the label next to spindle stays current or go to the future?
That's part of what I get a sense of from the book
As are aware the faster you travel time is said to slow
Which would mean even tiny tiny wennie discrepancies would be catastrophic
In the dim dark ages of the vinyl records (and still current) the outer edge of the record travels faster than the inner part of the label next to spindle
So why does the outer edge not slip into the past while the label next to spindle stays current or go to the future?
Who's to say they don't? As you said, they are travelling at different speeds (albeit only minimally so) - I would be willing to bet that, if we had a sensitive enough chronometer, that difference could be detected. However, I would hazard a guess that it would be a difference of zeptoseconds or less
OK I think it would be a accumulative problem
Leave that aside. How about someone on equator and someone on the North Pole
How do they fare?
Asexperia
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My clock shows 10:00 AM (event 2).
This time (moment of the day) is in relation to midnight (event 1).
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OK I think it would be a accumulative problem
Leave that aside. How about someone on equator and someone on the North Pole
How do they fare?
Probably the same as the record - the amount of dilation is minimal to the point of being moot, even over the course of a lifetime.
The time is not an event - the event in question is when you checked the time.
Even if you had not checked the clock, it would have continued to advance, uncaring of your presence (or lack thereof)
Asexperia
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Event 1: midnight
Event 2: the Sun is in a certain position in relation to the meridian
of the Earth (10:00 AM).
May as well have said "Event 1: I took a dump" and "Event 2: My cat ate a mouse" for all the relevance there.
Again, you are instigating an event. Even if you were not there to witness the position of the sun, time would still go marching on.
new to being old which is age not time
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6.3.3 With a Cesium Clock
The physical state of cesium atom evolves with the cycles it produces, which are
observable realities, and this leads to the conceptualization:
CYCLES OF A CESIUM ATOM (phenomenon) ) TIME (concept)
This in turn leads to a definition of time:
TIME IS A CONCEPT CORRESPONDING
TO CYCLES OF A CESIUM ATOM
Neither river floods, nor the celestial configurations, nor the cesium oscillations,
which are phenomena, generate time units or time, which are concepts.
Furthermore, changes in the state of a river, changes in celestial configurations,
change in human-made devices, are not caused by time: no arrow of time acts on
rivers, celestial objects, or human artifacts which might be used to define time units
and time.
Clocks are not powered by arrows of time. Some run fast, others slow, and
without energy they would remain dumb, whatever the technology they use.
Cesium is transtable. Its oscillations are yet another manifestation of the endless
search for a state of equilibrium. And this provides a more coherent explanation
than the metaphor arrow of time.
From
The Invention of Time and Space by Patrice F. Dassonville
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Yes, the nature of time and its fundamental or otherwise nature, appears still open to debate to some extent. And added to that are the diversity of ratbag made up opinionated crap that one often here's espoused on forums such as this.
Throwing your pet pseudo words into the fray doesn't make them, nor you, any more credible
Just because you do not perceive the passage of time does not mean you speak for all of us; an older gentleman I knew a few years ago was accurate to the second without a watch or clock, no matter when you asked him. It was, simply, put, amazing to witness.
DaveC426913
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You guys are on your own.
This isn't a discussion, it's a commercial for a crank and his website.
This isn't a discussion, it's a commercial for a crank and his website.
Everybody does have their own NOW yes depending on their location
Example
Looking out at the landscape my NOW takes in all the close stuff out to the horizon
If I was on the moon my NOW would encompass a lot more
Outside the galaxy a whole lot more
Only watched a minute of the video as the hotel in Bali WiFi is Cowpat
Such as magnitive????
I've got flowing water on Iggy. I am not missing anything as I can guess what has been posted through others posted replies. I found my IQ decreasing with flowing water
The Universal Now , is all movement happening at the same moment , continuiously .
Looking inside the Universe , from outside the Universe , observer , all movement is happening at the same moment .
From the sub-atomic , to the Galactic Core .
Hence movement , therefore time , is based on position of which one finds its self existing .
Looking inside the Universe , from outside the Universe , observer , all movement is happening at the same moment .
From the sub-atomic , to the Galactic Core .
Hence movement , therefore time , is based on position of which one finds its self existing .
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