Does time exist?
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Write4U
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IOW, what is the age of time?
I agree time does not exist until it emerges along with duration of change or measurement of something.
Yes
Time is the measurement of duration .
But time does NOT affect any duration , in any way .
Time then is a consequence of duration .
Write4U
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So, all the stars that we see in the universe experience the same NOW as us?
What about that star which went super-nova a billion years ago and no longer exists as a physical body. Does it still exist in our in our NOW? After all, we can see it's light shining bright and true?
Fact is that star no longer experiences time, it no longer exists at all and has not experienced a NOW for that billion years.
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Yes
No
True
Yes
All the stars and all the other stuff in the whole Universe experience the same NOW as us
NOTHING in the Universe can exist in the past
NOTHING in the Universe can exist in the future
Everything has to be lockstep in NOW
No
However when the star went super nova a billion years ago we were present in that NOW
What does exist in our NOW is the light on its way to us
True
Fact is that star no longer experiences time
Fact is that star no longer experiences ageing
Do not confuse time with age
And its absence has been present in our NOW for that billion years
Along with, as just mentioned, the light on its way to us
Do not confuse the NOW of a billion years ago with the NOW of NOW
They are completely different
NOW rules
Write4U
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Oh, I am not confused, but you seem to be. The Now of yesterday is not the Now of Now? Eureka!
If only we could figure out what came between, would it be Time or Age?
The Now of yesterday is not the Now of Now?
Correct
If only we could figure out what came between, would it be Time or Age?
There is no time within NOW
NOW stands just as NOW
However
Between an arbitrary point in a arbitrary past NOW and a further arbitrary point at a later arbitrary NOW would be a arbitrary measurement of arbitrary units and given the arbitrary name age
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Now has no arbitrary point .
If you say so it must be true
If you say so it must be true
Nope
Time does not exist
Only NOW exist
NOW does not have a thickness
1 second refers to AGE which is not time
1 second refers to a arbitrary
start point at previous NOW which no longer exist and
a later point on a later NOW
which is given a arbitrary measurement and named
1 second of AGE
NOW came into existence at the BIG BANG and since then it has always been NOW
It has never been the past
It has never been the future
Nothing exist in the past
Nothing exist in the future
NOW is all there is
NOW rules supreme
Makes note to self ' get a stronger soap box this one is getting rickety '
The main confusion, with respect to time, is times moves to the future, never to repeat itself; history changes. Yet we measure time using cyclic devices like clocks, which repeat. This is not how time propagates. We are not even using the correct tool to parallel the nature of time. The result is an artificial definition of time appears, which conflicts with the observational nature of time.
Run an experiment at home. A clock face has twelve hours and then repeats. Allow time to be expressed for 12 hours and see if all the exact things happen again. You can take pictures before and after. Measuring time seems like such bad lab practice. It is like measuring the size of sea shells with a scale. After you order the shells with the scale, the order does not properly equate to their size; density is overlooked.
Where the problem lies, is we try to use wave based cycles, which are 2-D, to express a 1-D concept. Waves are a blend of distance; wavelength and time; frequency, while time is just time. Time is not a wave, since it does not cycle. Only clocks cycle.
Run an experiment at home. A clock face has twelve hours and then repeats. Allow time to be expressed for 12 hours and see if all the exact things happen again. You can take pictures before and after. Measuring time seems like such bad lab practice. It is like measuring the size of sea shells with a scale. After you order the shells with the scale, the order does not properly equate to their size; density is overlooked.
Where the problem lies, is we try to use wave based cycles, which are 2-D, to express a 1-D concept. Waves are a blend of distance; wavelength and time; frequency, while time is just time. Time is not a wave, since it does not cycle. Only clocks cycle.
You inadvertently hit the problem right between the eyes
times moves to the future
time does not move!!!!
Time does not exist
There is nothing to move
We measure AGE
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Not sure I can pull apart the rest of the post sorry
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