Does space bend In a pure vacuum ?

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river said:
Space-time bends but not space ?


Convention tells us that space is what is between the planets and galaxies.
Convention tells us that time is what separates events.
The scientific model supporting Einsteins GR, tells us that spacetime is the unified multi dimensional framework against which all events are postured, and stems from the fact that the speed of light is a finite number and constant in all FoR's.
Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.

Space-time bends but not space .

Explain pad .
 
So why did you answer, How so? :O

Because I wanted to know the thinking .

I try not to assume what one is thinking , you tell me .

I disagree with the theory that the moon is a consequence of planet to planet collision .

Moon rock analysis says that the moon is older than Earth is .
 
Space-time bends but not space .

Explain pad .
Already done.
Because I wanted to know the thinking .

I try not to assume what one is thinking , you tell me .

I disagree with the theory that the moon is a consequence of planet to planet collision .
Do you? Why? Have you any evidence supporting any other hypothesis?
Moon rock analysis says that the moon is older than Earth is .
Reference?
WIKIhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Moon
The Moon's oxygen isotopic ratios seem to be essentially identical to Earth's.[4] Oxygen isotopic ratios, which may be measured very precisely, yield a unique and distinct signature for each Solar System body.[5] If Theia had been a separate protoplanet, it probably would have had a different oxygen isotopic signature from proto-Earth, as would the ejected mixed material.[6] Also, the Moon's titanium isotope ratio (50Ti/47Ti) appears so close to the Earth's (within 4 parts per million) that little if any of the colliding body's mass could likely have been part of the Moon.

"Today it is known that the oceanic crust that makes up this ocean basin is relatively young, about 200 million years old or less, whereas the Moon is much older. The Moon does not consist of oceanic crust but of mantle material, which originated inside the proto-Earth in the Precambrian."
"One of the challenges to the longstanding theory of the collision, is that a Mars-sized impacting body, whose composition likely would have differed substantially from that of Earth, likely would have left Earth and the moon with different chemical compositions, which they are not."
—NASA[1]


https://www.space.com/moon-older-than-thought-apollo-lunar-rocks.html
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OK again river, you disagree, so what is your hypothesis about the Moon?
From where I sit or stand, it is certainly strong and convincing, but just as certainly not as strong or convincing as the evidence for the BB, the evidence for both SR and GR and of course the 100% certainty of the theory of evolution of life.
 
No you have not done so .
You lied earlier with regards to denial of what you have been told...so more lying, or is it dementia? My apologies if it is. post 239
Convention tells us that space is what is between the planets and galaxies.
Convention tells us that time is what separates events.
The scientific model supporting Einsteins GR, tells us that spacetime is the unified multi dimensional framework against which all events are postured, and stems from the fact that the speed of light is a finite number and constant in all FoR's.
Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.
 
river:

Yet in order for a " big-bang to occur ; space needed to exist .
No.
Sure , could energy and matter exist without space ?
Who cares? What we observe in our universe is space and matter and energy etc. The aim of science is to describe our universe.

Or are you asking about some kind of abstract theoretical idea or something?
Further , the moon should not have been captured by Earths gravity .
Why not? What's wrong with our current best theories on the formation of the moon?

Space-time bends but not space .

Explain pad .
In general relativity, space and time are described as components of a four-dimensional manifold that we call "spacetime". When we talk about the "curvature" of spacetime, we're talking about the geometrical curvature of the manifold. Space is not said to "curve" in the absence of time. Bear in mind that this is a mathematical model - a description that helps us to predict what we observe when we look at real-world objects.

I disagree with the theory that the moon is a consequence of planet to planet collision.
Who cares what you disagree with? As usual, you give no reasons.

Moon rock analysis says that the moon is older than Earth is .
Does it? That's interesting. Please provide a link, since I'm interested in following this up.

Thank you!
 
You lied earlier with regards to denial of what you have been told...so more lying, or is it dementia? My apologies if it is. post 239


paddoboy said:
Convention tells us that space is what is between the planets and galaxies.
Convention tells us that time is what separates events.
The scientific model supporting Einsteins GR, tells us that spacetime is the unified multi dimensional framework against which all events are postured, and stems from the fact that the speed of light is a finite number and constant in all FoR's.
Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.

None of which explains that real space does not bend , you know real space as in room needed to exist , but space-time does .
 
None of which explains that real space does not bend , you know real space as in room needed to exist , but space-time does .
OK, I'll settle for stupidity enveloped somewhat by Dementia at this time.

So no space is needed for the BB to occur ?
The BB was the evolution of space and time [spacetime] from t+10-43 seconds as we know them. We do not know the how or the why.
You have also been told that at least four times?
Are you keeping something secret from us???
 
river said:
None of which explains that real space does not bend , you know real space as in room needed to exist , but space-time does .

OK, I'll settle for stupidity enveloped somewhat by Dementia at this time.


The BB was the evolution of space and time [spacetime] from t+10-43 seconds as we know them. We do not know the how or the why.
You have also been told that at least four times?
Are you keeping something secret from us???

I just think it is a very poor answer to my question .
 
So no space is needed for the BB to occur ?
Space and time are theorised to have started at the moment of the big bang. If they did, then there is no need for any "pre-existing" space or time.
 
I just think it is a very poor answer to my question .
That's because your head is filled with nonsensical anti establishment bias due to the nonsense you read. Try some reputable science books as David wisely told you a few days ago.
 
None of which explains that real space does not bend , you know real space as in room needed to exist , but space-time does .

OK, I'll settle for stupidity enveloped somewhat by Dementia at this time.


The BB was the evolution of space and time [spacetime] from t+10-43 seconds as we know them. We do not know the how or the why.
You have also been told that at least four times?
Are you keeping something secret from us???

Yeah nothing more than mathematical theory rather than a theory based on real physical things .​
 
But what made up BB in the first place ?
It is theorised that all of the matter and antimatter in our universe came into being at the moment of the big bang. There was slightly more matter than antimatter, so we ended up with a universe that is mostly matter.

If time started at the big bang, then it makes no sense to ask what was there before the big bang. On this view, there was no "before the big bang".
 
river said:
But what made up BB in the first place ?

It is theorised that all of the matter and antimatter in our universe came into being at the moment of the big bang. There was slightly more matter than antimatter, so we ended up with a universe that is mostly matter.

If time started at the big bang, then it makes no sense to ask what was there before the big bang. On this view, there was no "before the big bang".

What of energy ?
 
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