Does space bend In a pure vacuum ?

[river]

And yet science continues to progress every day despite your unsupported nonsensical claims.
You understand river, that "they no not want, nor do they care whatever it is you chose to fabricate.
Not going to answer the questions river? How inanley stupid and hypocritical of you!

So they are paying attention .

 

[paddoboy]

So they are paying attention .

Without mainstream science river, you wouldn't be here.

 

[river]

Without mainstream science river, you wouldn't be here.

True

 

[river]

Now does space bend in a pure vacuum ?

NO.

Space can never bend anyway .

 

[paddoboy]

Now does space bend in a pure vacuum ?

NO.

We all agree on that river...it’s spacetime that bends/warps/curves, something you can never honestly deny. I have lost count in how many times you have been told that, but you continue to wallow in ignorance.
That's the way it is, that's the way numerous experiments have supported it, and that's what GR has validated.

 

[paddoboy]

I'm thinking of writing a book..."river in wonderland" including all his magical deity, like creatures, his upside down world, his ghosts and goblins, and general state of confusion,

 

[river]

We all agree on that river...it’s spacetime that bends/warps/curves, something you can never honestly deny. I have lost count in how many times you have been told that, but you continue to wallow in ignorance.
That's the way it is, that's the way numerous experiments have supported it, and that's what GR has validated.

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Not deny , totally disagree with .

In any experiment , the most important information is from the datasheet .

 

[paddoboy]

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Not deny , totally disagree with .

In any experiment , the most important information is from the datasheet .

Deny, lie, obfuscate all you like. The many experimental results, and the associated datasheets, show us that spacetime will warp/curve, twist, wave and lense, in the presence of mass.
Whether you chose to play ignorant, is of no consequence and matters not one iota.
But river I will help you although I know you will not research or check it out, [1] you are not capable, [2] Your psychotic delusions stand in the way.
Check out the following observational experiments results...
[1] Eddington solar eclipse experiment. [2] Any cosmological telescope facility. [3] aLIGO/VIRGO gravitational wave observational results. [4] GP-B results and datasheets.

But you won't, preferring to continue acting the fool with your psychotic delusions and fanatical mainstream opposition nonsense, without the slightest reference or link to support your delusions.

 

[river]

Deny, lie, obfuscate all you like. The many experimental results, and the associated datasheets, show us that spacetime will warp/curve, twist, wave and lense, in the presence of mass.
Whether you chose to play ignorant, is of no consequence and matters not one iota.
But river I will help you although I know you will not research or check it out, [1] you are not capable, [2] Your psychotic delusions stand in the way.
Check out the following observational experiments results...
[1] Eddington solar eclipse experiment. [2] Any cosmological telescope facility. [3] aLIGO/VIRGO gravitational wave observational results. [4] GP-B results and datasheets.

But you won't, preferring to continue acting the fool with your psychotic delusions and fanatical mainstream opposition nonsense, without the slightest reference or link to support your delusions.

Show me the datasheets .

Space nor time , nor spacetime has any physical meaning ; to physical things themselves .

 

[paddoboy]

Show me the datasheets .

Space nor time , nor spacetime has any physical meaning ; to physical things themselves .

I've given you the information to get them yourself...Problem of course is that you would not understand them.

We have plenty of observational and experimental evidence of the variable topology of spacetime that the science world accepts. What the occasional clown denies, is up to that occasional clown.

 

[river]

I've given you the information to get them yourself...Problem of course is that you would not understand them.

We have plenty of observational and experimental evidence of the variable topology of spacetime that the science world accepts. What the occasional clown denies, is up to that occasional clown.

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Without any energy nor matter in this " spacetime " topology .

 

[paddoboy]

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Without any energy nor matter in this " spacetime " topology .

As you have been informed many times, spacetime warps and curves in the presence of mass/energy.
But hey river, keep doing the only thing you do well...trolling.

 

[river]

As you have been informed many times, spacetime warps and curves in the presence of mass/energy.
But hey river, keep doing the only thing you do well...trolling.

As I have disagreed with this silly notion .

And you know my objects .

And none of my objections have been falsified .

 

[paddoboy]

As I have disagreed with this silly notion .

And you know my objects .

And none of my objections have been falsified .

You havn't given any objections to be falsified, and of course the onus is on you to falsify spacetime/SR/GR, which you are totally incapable of doing.

 

[river]

You havn't given any objections to be falsified, and of course the onus is on you to falsify spacetime/SR/GR, which you are totally incapable of doing.

Spacetime has no cause , effect hence no affect on anything . Ever .

 

[paddoboy]

Spacetime has no cause , effect hence no affect on anything . Ever .

Of course it has a cause, we just don't know what that cause is. And as I have already told you, it also has an observable effect, in its expansion rate and the acceleration of that rate. Any more matters you need clearing up river?

 

[river]

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Spacetime has no cause , effect hence no affect on anything . Ever .

Of course it has a cause, we just don't know what that cause is. And as I have already told you, it also has an observable effect, in its expansion rate and the acceleration of that rate. Any more matters you need clearing up river?

The above quote

 

[paddoboy]

The above quote

The only above correct, evidenced backed quote, is that of mine, and as I have given links to and information for your benefit. But you chose to remain ignorant, not informed as you lied about in another thread.
Spacetime is a unified multi-dimensional framework within which we locate events and describe the relationships between them in terms of spatial coordinates and time. The concept of spacetime follows from the observation that the speed of light is invariant, that is, it does not vary with the motion of the emitter or the observer. Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.
Our unsurpassed and continually tested daily, theory of gravity GR, is described in terms of curvature/warpage/twisting of spacetime.

 

[river]

The only above correct, evidenced backed quote, is that of mine, and as I have given links to and information for your benefit. But you chose to remain ignorant, not informed as you lied about in another thread.
Spacetime is a unified multi-dimensional framework within which we locate events and describe the relationships between them in terms of spatial coordinates and time. The concept of spacetime follows from the observation that the speed of light is invariant, that is, it does not vary with the motion of the emitter or the observer. Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.
Our unsurpassed and continually tested daily, theory of gravity GR, is described in terms of curvature/warpage/twisting of spacetime.

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That's all spacetime is pad . Nothing more nothing less .

To the object spacetime means nothing . Because this object does what it does because of its self and as well the interactions between other objects .

 

[James R]

Good. Since you're all finished now, river, I will close the thread. I take it your question has been answered.

For some time now in this thread you have been putting out opinions that are completely unsupported by any attempt at argument or evidence. This is what got you excluded from posting to our Science sections in the first place. Now it seems you are again trying to get around that exclusion by making pronouncements about science in the non-science forums. Please stop that.