Stating you only deal with facts, while claiming the soul is a made up concept, before admitting you have not come across this subject matte, kind of defines your whole input in this discussion.
I see what you are driving at but I now have more facts than you have it seems given as you later say you havent got anywhere with a search.
So now that I know more I say the soul is a made up concept and no evidence exists to suggest the soul is anything more than fairy tale stuff.
Various humans have referred to the soul from as far back as ancient Eygpt but a doctor has yet to observe one and a scientist has yet to establish the notion is anything more than mythology.
Unfortunately the way folk talk to themselves and about themselves offers no proof other than those who talk about ownership of their body have a peculiar approach motivated by a religious belief.
And as the soul does not exist I guess that rips the gutz out of the rest of the supporting fairy tale.
I explained that your initial question, regarding Christianity, and how they view the soul, had nothing to do with basically understanding what the soul is.
I refer to my questions earlier seeking comment upon atributes of the soul.
But having read up on the concept of the soul it is interesting my sort of questions are never asked or addressed as the soul is left as a wishy washy ghost like make it up how you like entity that one fits into whatever religion you are aflicted with...yet I ask simple yet seemingly unanswerable questions like what does a soul look like, how do they move around, where do they hang out and how many are in existence.
And of course as these questions are of a practical nature they will have no answers...
Try wiki if you cant find anything it will be proof the subject is so trivial that it receives no mention.
Try Jan I dont believe you cant find something on wiki...but then again wiki must be rather confrontational for you as it deals in fact and observations of custom, culture and religion from an observational view and that will never be kind to an individual belief.
So how do you refer to your arms, legs, hair, and so on? Do say "my arm", "my beard", etc?
Or don't you?
I can agree about my self talk but that does not mean you have established a soul.
What I gather is you think the voice in your head is your soul.
Fine if that is what you think but a study of the science may give you an understanding of our brain function that leaves no reasonable prospect available to suggest anything like a soul exists other than as a religious concept.
Notice you said "I", got stuck, with a body. You couldnt escape the difference even if you wanted to.
I see now that you think you are offering evidence for the soul. OK.
I get what you suggest I think but I reject your approach as it makes no sense unless you are religious and as I am not say your approach makes no sense to me...at all.
So it's going g to be like that hey!
Are you saying you find entertaining the fact another can hold a different opinion is somehow wrong.
This is why the subject of atheism, is so interesting. You literally reach a blockade, then the real motive comes out.
I try and understand how others think Jan but your approach is very interesting and every now and then I get a glimpse of how you see the world so it would be nice if you got to see the world from an atheist view point...but this comment you make about real motive has me confused.
What do you imagine the real motive to be in your words.
I didn't say anything about getting a kick out of it.
Thats how I took it...but you said some people not you.
I am not concerned I dont know what the relevance was supposed to be with your original statement.
Difference between humans and animals???
Yes there is a small difference and large differences.
Do animals have a soul?
Are humans special, Alex?
If yes, why?
Yes and no.
Yes because they are and no because they are not.
So lack of proof, and facts (as you see them), means something is made up?
Clearly you have difficulty in working out when something is made up like scriptures and various religious books.
I sometimes fail to realise how debilitating that can be but unfortunately the condition appears very real.
Why one chooses to recognise fiction when in a fairy tale yet not when presented in a religious book I still cant fathom.
There are so many things that are just so wrong and uninformed recording of natural observation in religious text I wonder why folk do not instantly reject them...yet they dont.
If you met a liar you would throw him out when you discover his first lie...but even when confronted with lie after lie in a religious text the fool we call a thesist is not convinced it is a book that can only beconsidered unreliable at best and nonsense if one is to be objective.
Facts matter, proof of existence of made up characters is absolutely necessary if that character is being presented as real.
Such approach is just as applicable to God as it is the easter bunny or santa.
If it is real the facts will support the reality..
There is an easter bunny..ok..show me one.
Yes really.
Alex
Doesn't seem like you can exactly put your finger on it.
