That is a funny question you know: "Does God agree with me?"The person who runs the company that makes the bullets is not going to hell just because he ordered his employee to make the bullets, since making them is a good thing. Is this your assessment?
So you are also saying that it is good to take ricin then stuff it into a warhead of a missile as long as you don't fire it at someone. Would God agree with you?
That is a funny question you know: "Does God agree with me?"
Jesus understood the concept of orders, so a soldier taking orders is doing his duty. Unless he knew that it was morally wrong to follow that order he has no option. (I hope God agree with me.)
Then my friend, no one can take what you say about God as gospel, not even yourself. You only hope you are thinking correctly and it is logical to assume that you only hope you are telling people the right things also. This presents a small problem, why should anyone think that what you say about God is on the level?
From what you are telling me, I would have to think that God decides what's good based on the fact that nothing bad directly happens from one's actions. Is that correct?
you can have your own experiences of God, so you don't have to take my word for it. I'm not asking you to believe me.
Even jesus used the word "IF". He wasn't 100% sure his actions would work either. Life is a big IF. What certainty do you know of?I think that should go for everyone. Hoping you are right is a great deal different than being right.
Even jesus used the word "IF". He wasn't 100% sure his actions would work either. Life is a big IF. What certainty do you know of?
Where did you want me to go? ("I think that should go for everyone.")
I'm talking from experience.Perhaps Jesus hoped he was right also. Next time you go to church, pause a moment and think that the Pastor also hopes he is right. Why doesn't the Pastor start every Bible reading with the disclaimer, "I hope this is right".
I'm not suggesting you go anywhere. I fully uphold your right to believe whatever you want. I don't think it's morally right however, for anyone to tell people what is right when they only hope it's right. You could inadvertently lead someone down the wrong path even with good intentions. Is that an unreasonable conclusion to reach?
I'm talking from experience.
The Lord Jesus is my teacher. The messages I get from him are true. The passages below speak of this. John 16:13 is what I was telling you about. Not trying to think it up but saying what you are given, and thereby able to predict the future.Doesn't change the fact that you're only hoping your right. Experiences or not, you only hope. So personally I think you should cease and desist declaring anything you discern from your experiences that might indicate what's right and what's wrong. It's morally reprehensible to preach gospel when there truly is no gospel that you can pass off as a certainty. Not sure if God would appreciate that, who would know what He thinks anyway, right?
New Living Translation
He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you.
8 And when He is come, He will reprove the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment:
9 concerning sin, because they believe not in Me;
10 concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and ye see Me no more;
11 concerning judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak from Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak; and He will show you things to come.
14 He shall glorify Me, for He shall receive of Mine, and shall show it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are Mine; therefore I said that He shall take of Mine, and shall show it unto you.
16 A little while, and ye shall not see Me; and again a little while, and ye shall see Me, because I go to the Father.”
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own; but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you: ‘The servant is not greater than his lord.’ If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for My name’s sake, because they know not Him that sent Me.
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they would not have sin, but now they have no cloak for their sin.
23 He that hateth Me hateth My Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which no other man did, they would not have had sin; but now they have both seen and hated both Me and My Father.
25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law: ‘They hated Me without a cause.’
26 “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth who proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me.
27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with Me from the beginning.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you: ‘The servant is not greater than his lord.’ If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for My name’s sake, because they know not Him that sent Me.
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they would not have sin, but now they have no cloak for their sin.
23 He that hateth Me hateth My Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which no other man did, they would not have had sin; but now they have both seen and hated both Me and My Father.
25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law: ‘They hated Me without a cause.’
26 “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth who proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me.
27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with Me from the beginning.
Again, any human being is capable of saying exactly what you've laid out. You only hope that JC is who you believe him to be. That is not enough to preach it to the world and if you do then you should let those reading the quotes know that you only hope they are true. Pretty simple really. Believe whatever you want. I just think that it's a private matter, between you and whatever. You may feel the urge or even be told to go out and spread the word. Normally if you know it's fact then by all means let loose, but unfortunately you don't. I think that means any words or persons that encourage you to proselytize are dead wrong and this should immediately send alarm bells to the moral component of the brain. Too bad, I think you have your warning system shut off. By proselytizing I think one commits an outrageous act of conceit, an affront to all that's decent, especially to the minds of the young and the susceptible. I really think you need to take a step back and take a closer look at your actions to date and think of all the people you might have swayed. I don't think a private belief is anyone else's business but yours, give those people the same chance you had to form their own opinions.
If in any field of science we had to be establish facts from the beginning any time someone took an interest where would we be?
No, we build on what has been established and the next generation takes it a step further and that's how we get progress.
Its like a fitness programme it doesn't only work for the instructor.You can't build on "established facts" if they haven't been established. A belief is not, nor will it ever be, an established fact. I think the only thing you have established is an artificial reality, so in some respects you do have something to build on.
And so he should if you don't use your abilities to do good.
I'm not quite sure what you are saying, sorry and I read it twice too.LOL. Yes, the religiously indoctrinated will often wish that upon others. That's why religions cause so much conflict and that's why we think and use reason to understand that. Hence, we are trying to do good by showing how believers behave due to their lack of morals and ethics and how religion causes good people to do bad things, but alas, we are to burn for an eternity for trying to do good, nonetheless.
I'm not quite sure what you are saying, sorry and I read it twice too.
The effort of doing good, hurts you on Earth so you get rewards in Heaven, otherwise why do it? Don't just pretend to do good.
But, that is exactly what believers do, they pretend to do good because they want to get in good with the big guy. If they actually had morals and ethics, they wouldn't need the Bible to tell them to do that, just like atheists don't need religions to tell them to do good.
Actually i have to disagree with you there. We make decisions to do good deeds. Do you help a poor person or walk by them with no help at all?
Sorry, are you asking me if I give money to every single person on the street with their hand out? Obviously, not. No one does.