Does capitalism work?

Does capitalism work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 76 62.8%

  • No

    Votes: 45 37.2%
  • Total voters
    121
there is no issue to you, little cuntling. you know the answers already you fucksnot asslicking dungswallower. you're not hear to talk about anything besides how disgusting and stupid people who disagree with you are; you monkey-raping fag-handler. preach on then, rooster-choking piss-slurper.

but don't pretend it's a conversation, you mouth-breathing "duh"-sayer.
 
It is a conversation without you who do not even know how to take things in context.

If there was no poverty, there would be no issue.
Unfortunately, as long as there is, the issue exists.
You seem to have some sort of turn the blind eye mentality. You have posted the same types of comments before claiming that as long as I am ok, there is no problems. Purely subjective.
 
cool skill said:
WTF. That is a contradiction.

It is no different from saying:
Capitalism is beneficial to society. But whether it is beneficial to society or not, that is the issue.
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You clearly don't understand. For capitalism to "work", it only has to maintain society stable. We do have a minimum level of stability, therefore it works.
 
Coolskill, there is a novel called Animal farm by George Orwell. It is an exemplification of the defualt human condition in relation to socio-political struggle. I think all you are trying to say is that we need more cooperative capitalism than competitive capitalism.
 
cool skill said:
If there was no poverty, there would be no issue.
Unfortunately, as long as there is, the issue exists.
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LOL. Wow. I thought you knew logic?

Let's look at this:

A -> B
Not A
Therefore, not B?

ROFLMAO!

Idiot.
 
Chatha said:
Coolskill, there is a novel called Animal farm by George Orwell. It is an exemplification of the defualt human condition in relation to socio-political struggle. I think all you are trying to say is that we need more cooperative capitalism than competitive capitalism.
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I've read the book. It was about fascist pigs (literally) that convinced the animals to revolt against the humans so they could take the place of the humans.
 
TruthSeeker said:
You clearly don't understand. For capitalism to "work", it only has to maintain society stable. We do have a minimum level of stability, therefore it works.
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No. It either achieves a minimum level of functionally or it does not. The curerent system falls way below, and is characterized by severe disfunctionality.
There is no frame of reference indicating that it works in anyway.
 
It's not completely disfunctional, otherwise we would live in complete chaos. We don't live in barbaric times, where they used to go into people's house and kill everyone for no reason. Well, in some plaes that still goes on, but mostly not.

What you fail to see is that the system keeps itself stable by tricking people to believe that the system is fair. If people understood how unfair it is, people would revolt against it.
 
I've read the book. It was about fascist pigs (literally) that convinced the animals to revolt against the humans so they could take the place of the humans.
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Then what happened after the pigs took over? They created their own form of fascist government. All fingers are equal but some are more equal than others.
 
TruthSeeker said:
If people understood how unfair it is, people would revolt against it.
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What amazing egotism you continually offer, you blithering child. Of course it's everyone else that doesn't understand stuff, couldn't be your own limitations keeping your mind from comprehending something. Perish the thought. *sigh*

Of course 'people' couldn't possibly understand how "unfair" it is. Nelson says so.

Ass.
 
What I do not understand is how people can think this actually works.
I have yet to see any reasonable explanation.
"You are too dumb to understand" and "You are too much of an egotist to understand" is not a reasonable explanation.
 
wesmorris said:
What amazing egotism you continually offer, you blithering child. Of course it's everyone else that doesn't understand stuff, couldn't be your own limitations keeping your mind from comprehending something. Perish the thought. *sigh*
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How insensitive of you! Everyone is the same and should be treated as such!

;)
 
If poverty is eliminated and everyone is guarnteed first world lifestyle, what is the people's motivation to work? Does teh motivation come from teh inherent goodness of people?

Oh, and obviously when teh governement controls the means of production they manage the resources in the best way and make a much more productive economy than private owners, thats why the Soviet Union had such a booming economy that definitely did not collapse ;) After all, the centralized government definititely knows what is best for the people, moreso than the actual people themselves when they control the economy right?
 
Jeff 152 said:
If poverty is eliminated and everyone is guarnteed first world lifestyle, what is the people's motivation to work? Does teh motivation come from teh inherent goodness of people?

Oh, and obviously when teh governement controls the means of production they manage the resources in the best way and make a much more productive economy than private owners, thats why the Soviet Union had such a booming economy that definitely did not collapse ;) After all, the centralized government definititely knows what is best for the people, moreso than the actual people themselves when they control the economy right?
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So we have to have poverty or no one will be motivated?? You have a very poor view of human beings. Money isn't god to all. Life is much more rewarding to those that are not perpetually lusting for cash. What a small world you inhabit.
 
Hahaha you played right into it Genji. If many people like you say do not want a lot of money, then they would be perfectly content with the subsistence level that a socialistic government provides everyone no matter what job they have. Thus, people like yourself who only want to "get along" and make enough money to live humbly and not extravagantly are guaranteed that regardless, so they have absolutely NO reason to work or get an education.

I will try to be the common person you describe who does not want a lot of money.
I only want X humble amount of money. The government will give me X amount of money whether I work my ass off at high school and college and take risks trying to make a positive impact on soceity by creating innovation and progress, or if I do not get an education and become a moron only capable of working at a gas station. Since I make X money either way, I will take the option that is the least work to me, so I will become another illiterate waste of a person that adds nothing to society.

What if everyone felt this way in a system like this. That system would probably collapse.
 
Jeff 152 said:
Hahaha you played right into it Genji. If many people like you say do not want a lot of money, then they would be perfectly content with the subsistence level that a socialistic government provides everyone no matter what job they have. Thus, people like yourself who only want to "get along" and make enough money to live humbly and not extravagantly are guaranteed that regardless, so they have absolutely NO reason to work or get an education.

I will try to be the common person you describe who does not want a lot of money.
I only want X humble amount of money. The government will give me X amount of money whether I work my ass off at high school and college and take risks trying to make a positive impact on soceity by creating innovation and progress, or if I do not get an education and become a moron only capable of working at a gas station. Since I make X money either way, I will take the option that is the least work to me, so I will become another illiterate waste of a person that adds nothing to society.

What if everyone felt this way in a system like this. That system would probably collapse.
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Enjoy our oligarchy while you can. You never know what political future might "Pop Up!"
 
Is that a response? I didnt really understand it. You didnt point out any flaws in my argument that a system with no poverty full of non-selfish people is doomed to failure.
 
Jeff 152 said:
Is that a response? I didnt really understand it. You didnt point out any flaws in my argument that a system with no poverty full of non-selfish people is doomed to failure.
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Again, it's like running in mud arguing with tighty righties. Exhausting & unfullfilling. Maybe later. My boss is here late tonight. SUCKS! :rolleyes:
 
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