Pound sand.
Do you like how Dawkins, Hitchens et al. represent atheists?
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Pound sand.
Evidently.
What do mean, "Where?" Are you looking for scriptures, or something?
Is not grabbing an umbrella before going out not a set of instructions on how to keep oneself dry in the rain?
Do the same thing, apply the definition. Simple, really.
If I knew, I would not be asking, would I?
It is? I thought you said it wasn't?
What if I don't grab an umbrella? What does that mean?
Also, don't we grab umbrellas because we have learned to do so at a young age?
Musta ducked when those memes were hitting us.
Could you just point out where the memes are in the whole umbrella example?
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Again, I have no idea what you're looking for.
I never did, why don't you try reading posts before responding?
It means that's the way you responded.
Gee, didn't I say something along that line?
Read the posts, please.
I did.
Ya know sam, these are the baiting responses you're so adept to providing, which ultimately frustrates many people here. Funny, you should have a thread made here about you in that regard.
Have you been listening or ignoring?
And what should you do if you're wearing a hat?
You can pound sand if you're wearing a hat, Billy.
<< it is not possible to know the intricacies of the meme as this newly emerged replicator is not yet fully formed and so is “drifting clumsily about in its primeval soup” (p.206, 1976). In its present vagueness, the wanton blanket-definition that allows it to “attach itself to anything else, culturally, that works” >>
Vague?...primeval soup?..can attach itself to anything....in other words a load of waffle.
It gets worse...Lewis Wolpert..
<< If you could tell me what a meme is, and how useful it is, I’d be very grateful. [Laughs] Please don’t misunderstand, I’m a great admirer of Richard Dawkins [who developed the concept of memes]. But what are memes? How do you decide whether something is a meme or not? And what you really want to understand is, how is it passed on and why does it persist? This is never discussed. So for Daniel Dennett — who’s a philosopher, after all — to get involved with memes, the moment he does that, I just stop reading him. >>
Me too...this is one meme thats going to catch on. A meme is a trendy fad theory quickly discarded but is used by internet geeks for everything and anything.
Vague?...primeval soup?..can attach itself to anything....in other words a load of waffle.
It gets worse...Lewis Wolpert..
<< If you could tell me what a meme is, and how useful it is, I’d be very grateful. [Laughs] Please don’t misunderstand, I’m a great admirer of Richard Dawkins [who developed the concept of memes]. But what are memes? How do you decide whether something is a meme or not? And what you really want to understand is, how is it passed on and why does it persist? This is never discussed. So for Daniel Dennett — who’s a philosopher, after all — to get involved with memes, the moment he does that, I just stop reading him. >>
Me too...this is one meme thats going to catch on. A meme is a trendy fad theory quickly discarded but is used by internet geeks for everything and anything.
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So what is a meme then? I know the "popular definition" but epistemologically it means nothing.
One new way of looking at it, which has probably developed from the meme concept is like this:
"Participatory Epistemology is a relatively new philosophical concept, paradigmatically articulated by Richard Tarnas and elaborated specifically in relation to Transpersonal psychology by Jorge Ferrer, Christopher Bache, and others. The Participatory Epistemology is constituted in the recognition that meaning is neither outside of the human mind, that is, in the "objective" world waiting to be discovered (the paradigmatically Modern/Structuralist worldview), nor that meaning is simply constructed or projected onto an inherently meaningless world by the "subjective" human mind (the paradigmatically Postmodern/Poststructuralist worldview). Rather, Tarnas argues, via Hegel, Goethe, Kuhn, Jung, and many other thinkers, that meaning is enacted through the participation of the human mind in the larger meaning of the cosmos. Thus, as in the dialectical movement that Hegel describes, the mind draws forth a meaning that exists in potentia in the cosmos, but which must go through the process of articulation by means of human consciousness. "
...actually, I kinda just called it a heritable environmental effect on memory. But that epistemological stuff sounds just nifty.
heritable environmental effect on memory, huh?
'ow wuld that woik dyu tink?
Gesundheit.
Methylation of associated regulatory elements for behaviour - adrenalin, steroids and the like.
Geoff not know specifics of fine physiological mechanics, but expects system of fine-grain modification of blunt systems; like allegorical hitting-cavewoman-just-hard-enough-to-stun-her with club. Too hard, and cannot mate; instead need readily available pit. Too soft, and cannot mate: system disrupted by angry female with lump on head.
Just right: short-term fitness assured.
Begging the question, which comes foist, the adrenaline surge or the emotion that leads to it?
Oh you!!!!
Sure but does the fear cause the flight or fight?
If so, what presents the emotion?
PS Are you a giant dick?
Oh you!!!!
Look, just answer the question, unless you've already heard the joke.
Emotion's just biochemistry. It's meaningless.
There are those who would agree with that. My wife, for example.
The market of course, I'd get a better price for him there.
*gasp*
Hmm obviously your training has not been completed yet.
You'd run into the middle of the market? With a bear behind?
Hahahahahahaha!!11!one!!
...homonym. Geddit?
It's all true.
First I have to strike down the Sith lord above me.
I figured I was screwed no matter what I said, anyways. "bare behind" indeed.
btw, homonyms remind me, how do you titillate an ocelot?
edit/: On topic *cough cough* there is an interesting book on memes called Darwinizing Culture, with lotsa interesting articles.
http://www.amazon.com/Darwinizing-Culture-Status-Memetics-Science/dp/0192632442